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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:13 AM
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WTF??? Fox Poll On Universal Health Care
Should America have universal healthcare?

a. Yes (30%)
19,833


b. No (64%)
43,066


c. Not sure (6%)
3,763


66,662 total votes


Who are these assholes who vote no?? They don't want others to have healthcare???


http://www.foxnews.com/business/index.html

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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:14 AM
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1. I think they're the same wastes of protein who like to go
"The government doesn't owe you anything!"
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:14 AM
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2. Isn't the FOX demographic skewed towards SELFISH Americans?
I think so.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:48 AM
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26. Only the wealthy and the crazies pay any attention to FAUX
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:06 PM
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30. I don't know... crazy implies they don't know any better.
Somehow I really doubt that... I think they know, they just don't care.
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jrw14125 Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:14 AM
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3. 2/3 of 36% is only 24%....
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:16 AM
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4. It's not that. It's that Fox viewers are pretty gullible to myths...
and the big one that has been passed around about UHC is that it will be horrible for all of us, and that we will have to wait weeks to get an appointment to see a Dr., have tests run, and that we could be dead by the time we get to see a surgeon.

I don't think these people are all "mean," as much as I do gullible....they are the ones passing all the urban myths around on email too.

Really sad.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:39 AM
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20. Myth: The US has the best health care system in the world
The U.S. does not have the best health care system in the world - it has the best emergency care system in the world. Advanced U.S. medical technology has not translated into better health statistics for its citizens; indeed, the U.S. ranks near the bottom in list after list of international comparisons. Part of the problem is that there is more profit in a pound of cure than an ounce of prevention. Another part of the problem is that America has the highest level of poverty and income inequality among all rich nations, and poverty affects one's health much more than the limited ministrations of a formal health care system.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-healthcare.htm



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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:43 AM
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22. I miss Steve Kangas daily
thanks for posting that.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:43 AM
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21. But we're there now!
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:45 AM
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23. I know, and you know....but, for some reason, some "conservatives"
(read: People unable to question authority, or think for themselves) haven't picked up on this yet.

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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:16 AM
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5. Just a bunch of FOX-holes...
Pay them no mind. They'll be weeping for handouts once they get sick, though.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:17 AM
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6. It's FOX for god's sake!
You can't take the results from an on-line poll seriously and this is a FOX on-line poll. Rest assured the results are predetermined.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:18 AM
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7. Socialism is bad, m'kay...?
:rofl:
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:18 AM
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8. Universal healthcare == communist totalitarianism == destruction of USA
Why do you support the total destruction of the United States?


(And it case it wasn't obvious... :sarcasm: )
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:18 AM
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9. What makes you think the numbers are real?
As far as I can tell there is NOTHING to prevent Fox from posting phoney opinion poll results.

With all the reports of vote fraud in elections why would we assume a partisan infotainment wouldn't fake results for the entertainment of their viewers and website users?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:26 AM
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14. Agreed
Anyone who believes something posted on Fox is as gullible as the people who watch it. That outfit is dishonest to the core- and probably ought to be divested of its broadcast media holdings.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:18 AM
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10. The Culture of Death idiots.
They enjoy the misery of others.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:18 AM
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11. Universal Healthcare = Socialist = Godless = The Devil's Work
Or at least that's been my experience with freepers.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:46 AM
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24. "Universal Healthcare = Socialist = Godless = The Devil's Work"
Except the freak republic members/idiots who believe everything they see on Faux love their socialized medicine in the form of Medicare. This needs to be pushed by media outlets b/c too many people don't understand we already have a form of socialized medicine & I don't hear anything of republinazis refusing Medicare when offered it.

And if they're so offended by socialized medicine, let's see them fight to disband all police & fire depts. & our military, b/c they're socialized services in that we pay for them out of our taxes.


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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:24 AM
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12. I've been doing my own "polling".
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 09:26 AM by Dr.Phool
I've spent the last 3 months standing outside a DMV office, gathering signature cards for a friends congressional race. I probably talked to 6-7000 voters personally during that time.

The issue on nearly everyone's mind, Democratic and Republican alike was healthcare. Affordable healthcare. I was really pushing H.R.676, which we support completely.

Check it, and us out.

www.johnrussellforcongress.com

and

www.healthcare-now.org
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:25 AM
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13. i don't think it's fox viewers but the general public that
thinks this way. my sister is in nursing school right now and they just had a "debate" about this. the consensus was the universal care was bad, mainly because people would then get all kinds of surgeries because they would be free. i don't even know where to start with that! these are the future health care professionals and they are spouting this nonsense.

the health care industry has won their propaganda war and we will continue to pay the most for health care in the world while millions can't even afford insurance, upping the costs we all pay because these people then end up going to the ER. rethugs will blame it all on illegal immigrants to cover the real problem of health care for profit and seniors will go broke paying for meds they can't use their collective power to bargain for.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:30 AM
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16. So if we add a sliding co-pay scale?
or else perhaps I'll just go tot he hospital and have them remove an organ beause of the great food.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:32 AM
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18. I don't hear anything like that at all
In fact I hear the EXACT opposite from both the people in my MPH program and a close friend of mine who's getting her bachelor's of nursing in Washington. In fact, I can't think of a single professor or health care professional in my prrogram who doesn't understand that some form of universal health care is required. Not one.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:38 AM
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19. "i don't even know where to start with that! "
Where you can start with that is to point out that that's not just an argument against UHC - it's an argument against medical insurance in general!

Are they against medical insurance? Are medical insurance companies going broke because their customers are all running to the hospitals for free uneccessary surgeries? If not, then what makes them think it would happen simply because more people are insured?
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:27 AM
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15. This is Fox remember.
Most people who watch/read Fox news are freepers. And they believe that if you can't afford to pay for health care then you don't deserve it. Like everything else. If you don't have a job or a home or have an illness then you are just supposed to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get a job, work hard and then you can deserve to have a home and medical care. That is the freeper mind.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:31 AM
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17. "universal" makes it sound like illegal aliens would get it
it is fox, after all.

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:46 AM
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25. You understand this is an online poll, right? It even says there...
This is not a scientific poll. I take them at their weird. It's meaningless. But think about it... 30% of Fox viewers favor universal health care. They probably represent the most damn-the-facts conservative third of the country. I'd guess something like 90% of the most liberal third and 70% of the non-engaged also would be pro-universal health care. Ballpark it, at lowest, around 60-65% of the country.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:57 AM
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27. They Don't Want People to Have Healthcare
payed for by our tax dollars. What they don't seem to grasp, is that private companies are ripping us off, not the government. They have been brainwashed into believing any form of Socialism is bad. Anything to an extreme is bad, which is why today we see an unfettered capitalist system turning fascist... yet "We the People" are now not allowed to help each other or have a system that could.

There is a huge difference between having a mix of socialism and capitalism, and having an completely absolute corporatocracy. Thopse who want to kill every social program are plain arrogant and stupid. It will never work, and we as of today can already see how bad this mentality is.
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 10:29 AM
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28. Fox and health care
First, Fox is nothing but a mouthpiece for right-wing Republicans. Second, right-wingers think universal healthcare is socialistic....and we can't have that, now can we? This is the way they "think".
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:47 AM
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29. That's Their Problem. They Are Too Narrow-minded
What makes this country great is we had a system that balanced our economic infrastructure by utilizing both Capitalism and Socialism. One system alone will ruin our country, as we have already been seeing since Reagan.
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