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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:10 PM
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Anybody got an anti-war general scorecard?
Has anyone been keeping track of former generals who have criticized the war in Iraq and/or called for Rumsfeld to resign?

If so, could you post the list, along with links referencing each? Thanks in advance.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:19 PM
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1. I found them mentioned here:
Today, Maj. Gen. Charles H. Swannack Jr., who led troops on the ground in Iraq as recently as 2004 as the commander of the Army's 82nd Airborne Division, became the fifth retired senior general in recent days to issue a public call for Mr. Rumsfeld's ouster.

"We need to continue to fight the global war on terror and keep it off our shores," General Swannack said in an interview. "But I do not believe Secretary Rumsfeld is the right person to fight that war based on his absolute failures in managing the war against Saddam in Iraq."

A second former Army commander in Iraq, Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who led the 1st Infantry Division, publicly broke ranks with Mr. Rumsfeld on Wednesday. In recent weeks, Gen. Anthony C. Zinni and Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold, who both retired from the Marines, and Maj. Gen. Paul D. Eaton, who retired from the Army, have also spoken against Mr. Rumsfeld.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/washington/13cnd-military.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:36 PM
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2. Generals
Current there are four retired high ranking generals that have called for rumsfield's resigination. They are us Army Major General John Batiste Commander of the 1st Infantry Division. US. Marine Lietenant General Gregory Newbold, Director of Operations on the Staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. US Army Major General Paul Eaton, whos last duty was the over sight of training of Iraqi Army Troops. and Last but not least US Marine General Anthony Zinni, Chief of the US central Command.
All of these generals knew they would have to retire before they could speak their minds and this is what they chose to do.

Folks this is no small deal here
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:38 PM
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3. Are there any retired generals who have not called for
Rumsfeld to step down?
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:39 PM
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4. Colon Powell.
He's hoping for another My Lai to investigate.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:48 PM
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5. List so far & (ret) Lt. Col. Christman was speaking against him
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 10:02 PM by Alamom
tonight on Anderson Cooper. He said we need a change in leadership. (I didn't catch his first name)


The others

(ret)
Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack
Maj. Gen. John Batiste
Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold
Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton
Marine Corps Gen. Anthony Zinni

& some count Ret. Army Gen. John Riggs,


CNN is reporting that a fifth retired general is calling for Rumsfeld’s resignation.

“I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him. … Specifically, I feel he has micromanaged the generals who are leading our forces there,” said retired Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack, former commander of the 82nd Airborne Division.

Actually, this may be the sixth general. Generals Newbold, Eaton, Zinni, and Batiste have gained prominent attention in calling for Rumsfeld’s resignation. But another less-noticed general, Ret. Army Gen. John Riggs, told the Washington Post recently:

believes that his peer group is “a pretty closemouthed bunch” but that, even so, his sense is “everyone pretty much thinks Rumsfeld and the bunch around him should be cleared out.”.


http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/13/the-chorus-grows-another-general-calls-for-rumsfelds-resignation/

Now there are 6 Gens. and 1 Lt. Col.


on edit; paste problems
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:49 PM
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6. Major General John Riggs.
My husband says he stood up to Rummy and got demoted and kicked out of the army for trying to do the right thing. That's why the rest stayed quiet until they were out.

Here's a quote from a 5/2004 article:
Retired Army Col. Robert Killebrew, a frequent Pentagon consultant, said, "The people in the military are mad as hell." He said the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, should be fired. A spokesman for Myers declined to comment.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11227-2004May8.html
Dissension Grows In Senior Ranks On War Strategy
U.S. May Be Winning Battles in Iraq But Losing the War, Some Officers Say
By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, May 9, 2004; Page A01
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