I was listening to the Stephanie Miller Show this morning....

[TheDebbieDee]

and actor Ed Asner (Lou Grant) called in to talk about conspiracy theories.

He and Jim Ward (Stephanie's co-host) got onto the subject of Aminehadine (sp), the President of Iran. They mentioned the fact that several Americans who were held hostage in Iran after the Shah was deposed had sworn up and down that Aminehadine was one of their many, many Iranian captors.

I remember this issue.....these hostages came out with their allegations just after Aminehadine won the election in Iran. And then, after a couple of days, it seemed as though these hostages just disappeared off the face of the Earth, never to be heard making these allegations again.

Well, at the time, I thought that * had these former hostages come out of the woodwork in an attempt to justify an Iranian invasion.

But Jim Ward's and Ed Asner's take on the matter was that these former hostages inadvertantly outed a man who had been, and probably still is, a CIA operative in Iran (just like Osama Bin Laden may be a CIA operative in Afghanistan).

Jim and Ed speculated that Aminehadine was one of the Iranians that helped broker the deal that freed the hostages at the same time that Ronald Reagan was being sworn in as the President of the United States.

And now, I'm wondering if the outing of Valerie Plame and Brewster Jennings has something to do with making it impossible to verify the nuclear capabilities of Iran and all the other ME countries with which Brewster Jennings dealt.

So, do you think my tinfoil hat is on too tight? :tinfoilhat:

Mods: please feel free to put this in your conspiracy theory forum....I couldn't find it.

[fooj]

1. It's a tangled web they weave...

Peace.

[spuddonna]

2. You know, I thought that was weird too...

First, all these former hostages are swearing that this guy was their captor. You'd think if * had issues with this guy, the rw press would have jumped all over this, it would have been everywhere.

But it died quickly. Someone didn't want the hostages talking about it, so the media dropped the story. Hmm. I wouldn't be surprised that you're right on the money on that...

[pretzel4gore]

3. the problem is bush...that's the gist of our worry...

all these little guys might might not be bad guys, but who cares? the real issue is a known liar, thief and suspected perpetrator of premeditated mass murder is in control of the US government- that is the only worrisome issue on earth right now....

[woo me with science]

4. Asner also believes in MIHOP. nt

[TheDebbieDee]

5. Hmmmmm....

:kick:

[melissinha]

6. conclusion makes sense

And now, I'm wondering if the outing of Valerie Plame and Brewster Jennings has something to do with making it impossible to verify the nuclear capabilities of Iran and all the other ME countries with which Brewster Jennings dealt.

I am not fully up to sepped on Aminehadine, but you know Randi and a lot of us believe that outting Valerie Plame was a twofer, punish Wilson as a cover to true intent to cripple nuclear proliferation intelligence by Brewster Jennings.

:kick:

[Pharaoh]

7. listen to the interview

right here............

http://www.stephaniemiller.com/show/

[melissinha]

10. I heard it this morning

but was a little distracted with work and lack of knowledge, but i'll listen again..

I know this is crude, but I thought that Mini Queen and Mini Sir-Mix-a-lot, were hilarious...

[tishaLA]

12. Mini Queen, yes

Mini Mix-a-Lot....not so much.

I love Steph!

[htuttle]

8. I heard that too -- not sure about it

However, I too have wondered which of the remaining power figures in Iran still has the goods on Reagan's October Surprise.

I could see them keeping quiet even today (though it would still potentially create a lot of trouble for US Republicans if they had documentary proof), because it wouldn't look good to their OWN followers in Iran to have made a deal with the Great Satan in such a way. So somebody in Iran might still know, might still have 'the goods', yet not go public with it, even if they *weren't* a CIA asset.

Similarly, as I've said before, even though bin Laden originally denied responsibility for the attacks on 9/11, he stopped denying it after awhile ('Fat Osama' notwithstanding) -- I suspect because he realized that he was more popular among the people that al Queda tries to recruit when they thought he *was* behind the attacks.

[TheDebbieDee]

9. Hmmmm.........

:kick: last kick!

[Emit]

11. Except that it was never proven that Ahmadinejad

was the guy in the picture that was touted all over the news.





Mahmoud Ahmadinejad(L) Taqi Mohammadi(R)

A London-based Iranian news agency which opposes Mr Ahmadinejad is circulating the photograph, which it says was taken by the Associated Press news agency on the first day of the hostage crisis.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1673938,00.html

...on the day Mr. Ahmadinejad's victory was declared, the perpetual enemies of the Islamic Republic, the Mojaheddin-Khalq (MEK) released a photo purporting to show the newly elected president with a blindfolded American hostage during the hostage crisis of 1979-81. The photo was immediately distributed around the world, and accusations that Mr. Ahmadinejad was a "hostage taker" flew fast and furious. Some of the former hostages, still bitter because they had been prevented from suing Iran for their long captivity, thought they remembered him from their experience 25 years ago.

http://www.agenceglobal.com/article.asp?id=572


And from Iran Focus itself:

Prior to the first round of the presidential elections on June 17, Iran Focus was the first news service to reveal Ahmadinejad’s role in the seizure of the U.S. embassy in Tehran...

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2677

Iran Focus (www.iranfocus.com): The Mojahedin-e Khalq Organziation (a.k.a MKO, MEK, National Council of Resistance of Iran, NCRI, People's Mojahedin of Iran, PMOI, etc.) They are putting out a lot of the propaganda on Iran, and, interestingly enough, have strong ties to the neocons.

Some discussion here near bottom of thread about that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=923696&mesg_id=923696

Now, I must clarify, however, that all this still doesn't negate the fact that Ahmadinejad might be a CIA operative.

:tinfoilhat: