Grossman may well be Fitzgerald's star witness against Cheney & Bush

[understandinglife]

He appears central to the perjury and obstruction of justice case against Libby.

But, I'd like everyone to read the following excerpt from Jason Leopold's latest report not focusing on Libby but on "the White House":

The former Under Secretary of State derided the campaign to discredit Wilson and was outraged that the White House retaliated against Wilson by leaking his wife's identity to reporters, people close to Grossman said.

Grossman has provided FBI investigators and Fitzgerald with detailed information about the behind-the-scenes effort by Libby and other White House officials to undercut Ambassador Wilson's credibility. Grossman testified before a grand jury that the leak of Plame Wilson's name and CIA status to reporters was an "act of revenge" against her husband's criticism of the administration's use of the uranium claims in President Bush's January 28, 2003, State of the Union address.

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Attorneys as well as current and former administration officials close to the case said Grossman was the lone dissenting unnamed official quoted in a September 28, 2003, Washington Post story who told two Post reporters that "two top White House officials" called "at least six Washington journalists and disclosed the identity and occupation of Wilson's wife."

"Clearly, it was meant purely and simply for revenge," the Washington Post quoted the senior administration official, whom sources have identified as Grossman, as saying. According to sources, Grossman told the Post that the Plame Wilson leak was "wrong and a huge miscalculation, because they were irrelevant and did nothing to diminish Wilson's credibility."

From Jason Leopold's latest article Libby Filing: A Denial and A Mystery:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/041406A.shtml

No mystery about the implications of these four paragraphs.

I remember reading the September, 2003 WaPo and thought it amazing that such an explicit statement of coordinated criminal activity - outing a CIA NOC for revenge - conducted by "top White House officials" elicited essentially no response.

I'd expect that Grossman could make a rather strong witness for the prosecution regarding not just perjury and obstruction of justice charges against Libby, but much more grievous charges against him and those who ordered the revenge and violated national security by compromising Plame, Brewster Jennings, and likely other intelligence operations and personnel whom we've yet to be informed.


George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq.

[faithnotgreed]

1. thanks for posting this - great and uplifting (in a tragic kindof way)

[fooj]

2. KandR!

Peace.

[understandinglife]

3. "Bottom line: this time there’s no wiggling out of it. Dick Cheney ...

... ordered Scooter Libby to leak classified information to a reporter for nothing more than political hay prior to an election when they felt that the truth of Joe Wilson’s allegations could hurt them at the polls. They spared nothing — not even national security — in the craven pursuit of power.

Jane Hamsher's summary statement from yet another excellent post entitled Cheney Ordered Libby To Leak Classified Information:

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/14/cheney-ordered-libby-to-leak-classified-information

If Grossman doesn't have the direct goods on Bush's role, one can reasonably anticipate that a coward like Cheney will not hesitate to roll on him to shave a few years of hard time.


It's Tribunal Time in The United States of America

[slestak]

6. But but but . . .

. . . this administration doesn't care about polls!

:sarcasm:


k&r

[Time for change]

15. Hopefully soon they'll all be rolling all over each other

No honor among thieves, right?

[understandinglife]

4. Steve Soto: Are Bush/Rove Ready To Throw Cheney Under The Bus On Plame?

You’ll recall that Scooter’s recent defense to Patrick Fitzgerald’s claim that Scooter testified he was authorized to leak classified information was that he wasn’t directed to leak Valerie Plame’s identity.

So much for that defense. reports today that not only was Scooter authorized by the president through Shooter to leak classified information from the 2002 NIE, but was also authorized by Cheney to leak a still-classified CIA summary report on Joe Wilson’s Niger trip. This shreds any claim by Scooter or Shooter that there is no connection between the leaking of the NIE and the outing of Valerie Plame.

But when you read Waas’s piece, note what a “senior administration official” now say about the Vice President, and the environment he created, and then you may conclude as I did that someone close to the Oval Office is throwing Dick under the bus to firewall W. ...

Much more at the link:

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/007376.php

I think Steve's thesis is likely and that Bush knows he's gonna be prosecuted for giving the order to commit treason (irony being that he unilaterally declared war and has continued to state that we are at war).

It really is just a matter of which of them (Bush and Cheney) rolls on the other, first. Perhaps that's already happened.

Hint. Hint. Georgie and Dickie -- if you haven't done it yet, the one who rolls first might just be able to cop something less than the death penalty for treason. Hint. Hint.


It's Tribunal Time in The United States of America

[kpete]

5. Dickie - YES!!!

[AndyTiedye]

8. BushCheney Can Also Throw Themselves At The Mercy of the Court

This court:

The Peace Palace, The Hague, Netherlands


The International Criminal Court

Since either the Espionage Act or High Treason are capital offenses here,
they might actually prefer to be tried in the Hague.
I think the maximum sentence at the Hague is life imprisonment. Here:

I think we could settle for that.
Allowing them to be put on trial in the Hague for war crimes would help to
begin to restore our relations with the rest of the world.

[understandinglife]

9. Excellent post!!! Thank you.

"Since either the Espionage Act or High Treason are capital offenses here, they might actually prefer to be tried in the Hague."

You betcha!

:thumbsup:

[wordpix]

16. life imprisonment with all their assets seized & returned to Treasury

along with a Hallibrton-KBR war profiteers' fund to rebuild Iraq/help war victims and their families.

Sing, Dickie George, Sing! Can't wait for your command performance at the Hague.

[librechik]

20. don't be silly! The Dauphin can't be charged by the World Court

He has signalled his disdain for the Court, and threatened any nation who supports any action like that. Our Dear Leader answers only to a Higher Father.


(I think it's his dope dealer. Or Jeff Gannikins. Maybe they're the same guy!)

[bklyncowgirl]

23. Could the little someone whos throwing Cheney under the bus be Karl Rove?

He must have given Fitzgerald something in order to have escaped indictment. It's in his interest to save his own ample behind and that of the Chimp as well.

[autorank]

7. UL - K & R...Fitzgerald is going for the capo de tutti capos...

I trust Leopold, it's like reading tomorrows news today.

The implications of this, including the selective leaking on the bio 'terra' trucks, is exactly
as you say.

There was a planned effort, coordinated...a "conspiracy" to be precise ... to mislead America
into a war that harmed America greatly.

OMG, this is getting heated up beyond all expectations.

Somebody said this was Fitz's goal in the first place. Wish I could remember who.

Well, it's his goal now.

[understandinglife]

10. "OMG, this is getting heated up beyond all expectations." Indeed.

And, in the context of the actions of retired military leaders regarding Iran and the labeling, by more and more military members, of the Iraq war as the crime that it is, and that it was all based on -- yes, it's getting very, very hot in the kitchen.

:hi:


Peace.

[DemReadingDU]

11. So much info!

waiting for Fitz to put all the pieces together!

K&R!!

[Bethany Rockafella]

12. Things are good. :)

R!

[Jemmons]

13. Makes sense to me - they were always into facistoid displays of

Sometimesny case of conflict. To them the distinction between rational argument, persuasion, persuasion by force and sheer violence all blurred and they all had a taste for the "hot" end of that scale. When Colin Powell objected to Bush suggestion of unleashing Sharon and the Israeli military against the palestinians Bush shrugs: “Sometimes a show of strength by one side can really clarify things,” he suggests.

[stop the bleeding]

14. I have to read all of your links

to Waas, Leopold, FDL, and the LC before I can comment on this.

You go away for a few hours and the news dumps big.

I like what I see so far:thumbsup:

[wordpix]

17. oh, yeah, impeachment time is coming near! Get out the Dem vote '06!

[johnnydrama]

18. impeach

If a president can't be kicked out of office for going to war for absolutely no reason. A war that is responsible for almost 2500 deaths, and 10's of thousands of US injuries, then we might as well just take the impeachment process out of the books and throw it away.

[stop the bleeding]

19. LIBBY FILES REQUEST TO EXTEND EXPARTE DECLARATION to 04/28/06

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x934690

[H2O Man]

21. No biggie.

"Peanuts. Mere peanuts," as Ralph Kramden would say. The Ex Parte is nothing out of the ordinary in a case that is extra-ordinary.

Keep in mind that there are at least 5 others who will be able to testify not only that Marc brought up Valerie Plame Wilson at this meeting, but will be able to add information on the group discussion -- including Scooter's response. Fitzgerald has a significant amount of information on how Libby was "tracking" Joe Wilson, including his being focused on Valerie. (That's why Team Libby wants to bring in everything else on discovery: they do NOT want to deal with what Fitzgerald has.)

[understandinglife]

22. "... they do NOT want to deal with what Fitzgerald has." Yep.

Temp's a rising ...

[bleever]

24. The writing's on the wall. Only a very few have read it at this point,

but it's there and soon it will be taken for granted as having been obviously inevitable.

:patriot: for your focus and insights, once again.

[calimary]

25. Kicking this!

Liking it, too!

[ngGale]

26. Kicking...

:popcorn:

[berni_mccoy]

27. This. Is. IT!

:kick:

[young_at_heart]

28. "Purely for revenge"........What a guy!

A character trait we all want to see in our president. True leadership! Remember, "leadership" was one of the main talking points in the last election.

[Nothing Without Hope]

29. Sounds promising. But I still think that outing Plame and Brewster-

Jennings was primarily about destroying true intelligence in the Middle East, especially about WMDs and US black ops past and present.

Now Cheney and Rumsfeld are already running secret military operations in Iran preparatory to an overt strike:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2570340#2570533

And a gigantic, fortress-like, Vatican City-sized complex, the "US embassy" in Baghdad...
http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/15/our-big-digs-in-the-desert/

...and the US military bases along the oil pipeline route
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2570340&mesg_id=2570447

...show clearly the long-term plans of imperialistic domination. When (as I fear), in a few months, Bush announces how he has already begun the nuclear-bombing of Iran to "protect the US from the new Adolf Hitler," I'm afraid the findings of the Fitzgerald investigation will be buried. I am hoping very hard that this pessimism will prove unfounded. Let's also hope that Grossman's testimony blows the criminal conspiracy open quickly and that the tame corporate media will actually cover it with integrity.

[eleny]

30. K & R

:kick:

[Imagevision]

31. Now do you understand why the Judge is putting a gag order on comments?!

nothing but bad news for the White House players, especiall Cheney -- the reason they got rid of Card is because he is supposed to be called to testify in Plame case.

[stop the bleeding]

32. a very reasonable assumption at this point

Card's recent and sudden resignation has a lot of Plame buffs scratching their head and asking is this it?

After he started WHIG.

The case is gonna become a firestorm over the next few months.