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justice1 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 02:02 AM
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There are no insurgents in Iraq
The definition of insurgents is a group rising up against an established government. How can citizens of a country that fight a foreign government invasion be considered insurgents?
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 02:15 AM
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1. according to wikipedia there are
An insurgency is an organized rebellion that engages in deliberate actions to cause the downfall of a governmental authority, through destruction and armed actions. <1> This can include a range of behavior, but primarily focuses on armed activities of irregular forces that rise up against an established authority, a government, an administration, or a belligerent military occupation. Those carrying out an insurgency are "insurgents". Insurgents engage in regular or guerrilla combat against the armed forces of the established regime, such as conducting sabotage and harassment. Insurgents are in opposition to a civil authority or government primarily in order to overthrow or obtain a share in government, to further a separatist or revolutionary agenda, or improve their condition.


Ongoing insurgencies
Iraqi insurgency -- the armed campaign being waged by various irregular forces, both Iraqi and external in origin, against the multinational force and the new Iraqi government.
Kashmiri insurgency -- a campaign of terrorism and militancy by all sides of the conflict.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgent
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 05:49 AM
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2. Aside from
the answer given by toqueville, let me add that the insurgency is directed as much at the current Iraqi government as at the Occupation.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 05:53 AM
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3. Freedom fighters was too long a phrase. Did have the right ring to it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 06:50 AM
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4. Freedom fighters?
what crap. I suppose you could see those that target the military as freedom fighters, but people who blow up mosques and markets, kill indiscrimately and want to impose a narrow religious rule over the Iraqis, are not freedom fighters. There are far too many people here who are willing to excuse the actions of these people.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:42 PM
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6. There are big questions as to who is actually the ones blowing up
mosques. Seems there are lots of reports of Iraq cab and truck drivers being pulled over and investigated for hours before they're allowed to go free. When they get a certain distance away, they search there trucks and find out the Americans have placed bombs in them. There then have been three reports that I've seen so far where the Brits have gotten caught dressed as Arabs with car bombs. And two so far of US soldiers dressed as Arabs with car bombs.

If peace comes to Iraq, we will be asked to leave and supposidly will have to. They will enjoy their own lives. I'm betting that is not *'s plan. The more chaos in Iraq, the more we get to stay there and fight and fill the coffers of the Halliburton and the rest of the military corporations.

Oh yeah, we still don't officially own the oil wells.
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ColdWarVet Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:49 AM
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5. Seems simple to me..
The tactics used by these individuals are meant to instill terror on their own countrymen and/or fellow religious brethren, seems to me that makes them terrorists.
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