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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:24 PM
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Bruce Springsteen's new album: "We Shall Overcome..." April 25
Now Springsteen is about to release a new album, "We Shall Overcome - The Seeger Sessions" April 25.

It's beginning to look a lot like the 60's 70's in terms of artistic involvement in the issues of the times.

There are a lot of performers who were not around back then who are quite capable of giving voice to political beliefs too.

Fingers crossed...
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:25 PM
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1. oh goody
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:32 PM
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18. Day late and a dollar short. Steve Earle has kept the torch lit
over the past 6 years with "Just An American Boy," "Jerusalem" and "The Revolution Starts Now."

Springsteen is corporate rock, sorry to say. And has been for like the last 20 years.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 06:10 PM
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26. Yes, Mr. Earle is awesome...
but we need some mainstream corporate rockers to get on the bandwagon as well.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:26 PM
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2. I posted a question in the lounge about this subject...
what were some of the lasting anthems from the Vietnam era, as opposed to any anthems that are emerging for the current FUBAR. Got some interesting responses, but not many for the current time. Maybe this is the leading edge?
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:41 PM
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4. Maybe so. Some of the really great ones were by Phil Ochs
who died a long time ago.

He had one "I Ain't Marching Anymore" and "Crucifixion" which was about the Kennedy assasination and is full of vivid imagery and youthful outrage. (I love it)

Most of the old songs might need to be a little updated for the times.

A lot of the talent of that era met an early passing.

Janis, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, among others.

Arlo Guthrie is still around. But he was very young at the times. The ones who were part of the older wave at that time would be very old by now.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 06:11 PM
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27. I think all the Vietnam vets pretty much agreed on...
we gotta get outa this place by the animals.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:46 PM
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5. Eve of Destruction........
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:53 PM
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6. Yes, that was among the first I remember hearing. On the radio!
"...you're old enough to kill, but not for voting...

...hate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace...

...and you tell me over and over and over again that you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction."

There was another one "Good News Week," at about the same time that got a lot of air play.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:55 PM
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9. Simon and Grarfunkles Silent Night........
Edited on Sat Apr-15-06 03:55 PM by WCGreen
Spelling....
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:23 PM
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16. Oh yea! That was good!, if hard to listen to. n/t
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:05 PM
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13. Pete Seeger sang: "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy"
"Waist Deep in the Big Muddy

It was back in nineteen forty-two,
I was a member of a good platoon.
We were on maneuvers in-a Loozianna,
One night by the light of the moon.
The captain told us to ford a river,
That's how it all begun.
We were -- knee deep in the Big Muddy,
But the big fool said to push on.

The Sergeant said, "Sir, are you sure,
This is the best way back to the base?"
"Sergeant, go on! I forded this river
'Bout a mile above this place.
It'll be a little soggy but just keep slogging.
We'll soon be on dry ground."
We were -- waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool said to push on.

The Sergeant said, "Sir, with all this equipment
No man will be able to swim."
"Sergeant, don't be a Nervous Nellie,"
The Captain said to him.
"All we need is a little determination;
Men, follow me, I'll lead on."
We were -- neck deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool said to push on.

All at once, the moon clouded over,
We heard a gurgling cry.
A few seconds later, the captain's helmet
Was all that floated by.
The Sergeant said, "Turn around men!
I'm in charge from now on."
And we just made it out of the Big Muddy
With the captain dead and gone.

We stripped and dived and found his body
Stuck in the old quicksand.
I guess he didn't know that the water was deeper
Than the place he'd once before been.
Another stream had joined the Big Muddy
'Bout a half mile from where we'd gone.
We were lucky to escape from the Big Muddy
When the big fool said to push on.

Well, I'm not going to point any moral;
I'll leave that for yourself
Maybe you're still walking, you're still talking
You'd like to keep your health.
But every time I read the papers
That old feeling comes on;
We're -- waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.

Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
Waist deep! Neck deep! Soon even a
Tall man'll be over his head, we're
Waist deep in the Big Muddy!
And the big fool says to push on!

Words and music by Pete Seeger (1967)
TRO (c) 1967 Melody Trails, Inc. New York, NY"

http://www.tvacres.com/music_songs_muddy.htm
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:41 PM
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3. I posted a note
April 6th in the Music Appreciation Group in response to the Alan Lomax thread. Since then nix until today. I'd concluded you lot didn't like Old Time American Traditional Music. I think its wonderful - well I would do with c. 150 banjos !
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:53 PM
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7. I love music. I just added that forum to my forums. n/t
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:55 PM
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8. You can watch it here:
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:58 PM
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12. Thanks!! n/t
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:57 PM
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10. For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield. nt
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:57 PM
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11. One of the best: "For What It's Worth", Stephen Stills, 1966....
....lyrics:

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:19 PM
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14. Ohio, Southern Man, Don't Let It Bring You Down, Chicago, Woodstock
All from Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.

Ohio, what is it with that state??


"Crosby, Stills, Nash (And Young)
Song: Ohio


Tin solgiers and nixon coming were finally on our own. this summer i hear the drummin' four dead in ohio. gotta' get down to it solgiers cuttin' us down. shoulda' been done long ago. what if you knew her and found her dead on the ground? how can you run when you know?


nanananananananananana

Gotta' get down to it. soldgiers cuttin us down. shoulda been done long ago. what if you knew her and found her dead on the ground? how could you run when you know?

tin soldgiers and nixon coming. were finally on our own. this summer i hear the drummin' four dead in ohio. four dead in ohio. four? four dead in ohio four dead in ohio. "
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:20 PM
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15. You're right. "For What It's Worth" really captured the atmosphere of the
times. The paranoia.

Reminds me of now, too.

:(
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:28 PM
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17. This one was never a big hit or anything
but it's one of my favorites and unfortunately it is still relevant.


I Wonder Who They Are

David Crosby


I wonder who they are
The men who really run this land
And I wonder why they run it
With such a thoughtless hand.

Tell me what are their names,
And on what street do they live?
I'd like to ride right over
This afternoon and give
Them a piece of my mind
About peace for mankind

Peace is not
An awful lot
To ask.


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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:37 PM
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19. That's the only track
which is a protest song unless someone would like to explain how Old Dan Tucker is so. It would appear from the track listing that the CD?/DVD is just a get together with Seeger and Co. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It's too easy to misinterpret motives as was the case with a lot of Dylan's songs which were not written with that in mind - just landed up being used as anthems. Some comedian recently even quoted Simon & Garfunkel's Scarborough Fair as being so : that's a 400 year english trad. song with the words changed a bit. At least Dylan changed the title as well - Girl fom the north country.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:42 PM
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20. This is true. But perhaps there is some significance that he chose it
for the album title.

I hope it opens the door for others to do more of the old ones, or write and play new ones.

He followed Kerry around on the campaign, and played at that concert with so many others for Kerry before the election.

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 05:00 PM
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23. It's a civil rights movement song
isn't it ?
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 05:06 PM
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24. Yes, it originated with the Civil Rights movement.
We'll walk hand in hand some day eh ay

...

Deep in my heart I do believe, we shall overcome someday.

But very applicable for much of what goes on now.

There is so much to overcome that's perpetrated by the powers that be now.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:46 PM
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21. I noticed Guantanamera on the list of one of Seeger's albums. Reminds me
I was traveling recently in Mexico.

After a request for it got a very definitive NO from a local band, I asked someone if the song was not politically correct now.

The individual, a Mexican citizen, gently led me to the answer. It is Cuba. There is a base there. Guantanamo.

At which point I almost gasped and said ok, I get it. Gitmo. Where they torture people etc.

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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:50 PM
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22. Just remembered Ani Difranco does some wonderful songs! n/t
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 05:20 PM
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25. There were songs from Iran-Contra era...
Edited on Sat Apr-15-06 05:32 PM by IMModerate
Lives in the Balance by Jackson Brown
If I Had a Rocket Launcher by Bruce Cockburn
Invasion by the Android Sisters

--IMM
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:16 AM
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28. the new album is a tribute to Pete Seeger and his music . . .
and not necessarily a protest album . . . although some of Pete's songs were certainly of that variety, most of those don't appear on this CD . . . I think Bruce chose "We Shall Overcome" as the title because that's the song he performed on the Pete Seeger tribute album that we released a few years ago . . .
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