"Christian Titanic Society" seeks to revert gender roles back to 1912

[Bluebear]

:crazy:

Contact: Wesley Strackbein, Media Relations, 210-381-6091, [e-mail]

WASHINGTON, April 14 /Christian Wire Service/ -- Doug Phillips, President of The Christian Boys’ and Men’s Titanic Society, is holding a press conference at 5pm today to call men to remember the legacy of the men on board the R.M.S. Titanic who gave their lives ninety-four years ago to save women and children. The press conference will be held in the La Salle Salon at the L’enfant Plaza Hotel in Washington, D.C.

“On April 14, 1912, as the great ship Titanic plunged into the icy waters of the North Atlantic, men sacrificed their lives so that women and children might live,” remarked Phillips. “Men gave up their spot on lifeboats to save those weaker than themselves. This legacy of heroism is one that men today should pause and consider on this anniversary of the Titanic’s sinking.”

“Men must be willing to rise above selfishness and lead,” continued Phillips. “Rather than exploiting women and children, they should seek to protect and defend them. Sadly, the principle of ‘women and children first,’ which was a hallmark of Old Christendom and the pre-Modern world, has been exchanged in our day with the humanistic philosophy of the ‘survival of the fittest’ -- the strong live and the weak die.

“At the Christian Boys’ and Men’s Titanic Society, we oppose this aberrant historical shift and charge men in our time to lead sacrificially.”

Also sharing remarks at the 5pm press conference will be Scott Brown, son of WWII flyboy Bill Brown. The elder Brown was shot down over Tokyo Bay during the closing months of the Second World War before being rescued. Scott will discuss how his father’s manly sacrifice made him the man he is today. The Brown Family’s story is featured in the newly-released documentary, The League of Grateful Sons.

“During WWII, men -- not women -- fought and died on foreign battlefields,” explained Phillips, who also served as Executive Producer of The League of Grateful Sons. “The soldiers of the Second World War embodied the same principle that the men on board Titanic did -- they died for their children and their sweethearts. They gave their lives to protect a way of life that we have all but lost site of in the twenty-first century as we have capitulated to feministic and egalitarian ideals.”

Bill Brown, along with Phillips, will be addressing the Christian Boys’ and Men’s Titanic Society Tenth Annual Dinner gathering at 6:30pm tonight at Phillips Flagship Restaurant in D.C. Phillips keynote message is entitled, “Manliness: What the Titanic Generation Had That We Must Reclaim.”

Several dinner seats are open for D.C. Press. To attend tonight’s dinner, to schedule an interview, or to obtain more information about today’s 5pm press conference, contact Wesley Strackbein at 210.381.6091.

To learn more about the Christian Boys’ and Men’s Titanic Society, visit www.titanicsociety.com. To learn more about The League of Grateful Sons documentary, visit www.leagueofgratefulsons.com.


http://www.earnedmedia.org/vfm04141.htm

[msongs]

1. let's do it like they did it in the YEAR ZERO xtian calendar time

you know the era: roman empire, the persians, cleopatra, etc.

those were the glory days for women's right by golly.

that's when "let's go get stoned" by ray charles was a women's pastime.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/impeachbush.htm

[wickerwoman]

6. Actually women in the Roman Empire had more rights

than women for a thousand years before or afterwards.

They had the right to divorce their husbands. Widows didn't become the property of their brothers, sons or fathers- they could live their own lives. And if you got a divorce, the woman got to keep the dowry, not the man.

One reason Christianity thrived in the Roman Empire was all the rich independant widows.

I wouldn't go back and live there by choice- but if I had to be a woman in any era pre-1850s, I would live in the Roman Empire.

[smoochpooch]

2. This is a joke right?

Wow.

[Bluebear]

4. Not in the least. nt

[nuxvomica]

3. Doesn't that mean that the poor don't get lifeboats?

If we want to go back to 1912 then that doesn't sound so good for the Third Class folks.

[Sinti]

15. The poor don't get lifeboats now. That idea is long gone. n/t

[BrotherBuzz]

16. Not only no lifeboats....

Third class passengers will be locked down below in steerage where they belong.

[Dr Ron]

21. Let's slap them around too

While Rose/Kate Winslet was fictious, I bet the treatment of her by her rejected fiance was characteristic of treatment of women in that era.

[OzarkDem]

35. Are they oblivious?

One of the most socially stratified eras in US history, due to the fruits of industrial revolution and lack of income taxes, minimum wage or labor laws.

Why would anyone want to preserve such a backward social structure?

[Bluebear]

48. Because they're Republican Christians. nt

[DBoon]

5. Why not revert back to 900 AD

When people did not wash below the waist?

And an effeminate luxury like soap was long gone?

That was truly a christian era.

[noamnety]

7. "men -- not women -- fought and died on foreign battlefields,"

Keiko Sasaki
6 years old in 1945
She (Grandmother) heard from a man who escaped from Hiroshima that the city was completely destroyed by the bomb. When she heard that, she went to Hiroshima right away. When she came back after a week, I asked "Where's Mother?"

"I brought her on my back" was the answer.

I was very happy and shouted, "Mummy!" But when I looked closely, I saw she was only carrying a rucksack. I was disappointed. My sister and our neighbors began to cry. I couldn't understand why. Then my grandmother put the rucksack down and took some bones out of it and showed them to everybody. There were my mother's gold tooth and a piece of her elbow bone. I still didn't understand.

http://www.csi.ad.jp/ABOMB/children.html

[Blue_Tires]

20. not to mention the women that were KIA

fighting for the French Underground and the OSS

[wickerwoman]

8. When are we staging the re-enactment...

What a bunch of posers...

[kevinbgoode]

9. Who said this was rooted in "christendom?"

These people will stake a claim to every human custom, except the ones involving violence that they are responsible for instituting. I wonder what "christendom" custom made Jesus white?

[rodeodance]

10. I do not know whether to laugh or cry!!!

[rodeodance]

11. sign em up-the military is always looking for a few good MEN (Manly)

[MnFats]

12. Women DID DIE in WWII

I know a woman who served in the u.s. army medical corps in Italy during WWII. She worked at a field hospital that got bombed and shelled with some regularity, killing many of her friends and colleagues -- male and female. This was not an isolated incident.
F*** these assholes.

[fudge stripe cookays]

13. And the nurses in Bataan and Corregidor...

Anyone seen "So Proudly we Hail?" I cry every time.

[Erika]

14. So they believe a man should be the sole breadwinner?

Or the woman should continue working at a lower wage and doing all the housework and child raising duties?

[Nobody]

34. I think one of these guys saw a diaper

and puked his guts out.

So no more diaper changing for him. Oh no, that is a woman's job. Too gross for him. Ewwwww! Let the woman handle the gross jobs. He can't deal with cleaning toilets either, but somehow when maintenance gets paid the big bucks for larger versions of toilets it's no longer women's work.

To guys like like that women's work is work they don't want to do. Does ANYONE like housecleaning? Or changing diapers? It's necessary, but does anyone really enjoy these chores?

[Nobody]

17. The Titanic Society? We all know what happened to the Titanic

It sank.

[alittlelark]

18. My Grandmothers BUILT the weapons these 'Christian Men' utilized....

One of them illegaly aborted a fetus in her late 40's.

The sick twistedness of this group is rooted in a deep seated fear of (capable of measuring) females.

These 'men' are beyond sick and twisted. They let their inferiorities play out ..... and they band together.

[cynatnite]

19. Didn't women and kids work in sweat shops during that time? n/t

[neoblues]

22. Ahh, Yes... The Good Old Days...

As Ned Flanders (of Simpsons fame) wished along these lines (not a direct quote):
"I wish it were more like the old days, the simpler more moral days--times that only exist in the minds of us Republicans!"

[Warren DeMontague]

23. Praise Be, To Nero's Neptune...

The Titanic Sails at dawn...
and everybody's shouting
'Which side are you on?'

[NMMNG]

24. Men sacrificed so women and children might live?

Let's not forget all of the poor who were sacrificed so that the rich might live. :eyes:

[Toucano]

26. That's the theme for next year's dinner!

Way to steal the thunder, Buff!

[NMMNG]

27. That's just my cynical way

:shrug:











:P

[cali]

29. No kidding. And that includes on the Titanic.

Freeperville had a thread about this and almost every comment was the equivalent of a bobbling head with such inane remarks as it's all the fault of the feminazis. At the end of the thread, someone who forgot to swallow the koolaid, remarked that:

"More first class male passengers survived than third class children."

It was great.

[NMMNG]

49. The "feminazis" have taken over everything

I guess that's why only 1% of companies have a female CEO, and women only account for 3.9% of the 4,341 highest paid executives at the 825 companies Business Week analyzed in 2000. Or why The 20 highest paid male executives averaged $138.5 million, whereas the 20 highest paid female executives averaged less than one-tenth of that$11.2 million apiece.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3859/is_200107/ai_n8962368

They just can't stand anybody who dares to stand up to their supposed white-male supremacy. Not women, not blacks, not Hispanics, not non-Christians, not gays, not anybody. What a bunch of wusses.

[MrBenchley]

40. Wouldn't it be pretty to think so, as Hemingway said....

"Q - Is it true that some of the male passengers dressed as women in order to get on the lifeboats?

A - Yes, there is significant evidence and testimony to suggest that more than one man disguised themselves in order to board boats. Despite rumors created by some 1912 media, White Star Line Chairman, Bruce Ismay, was not one of them.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Q - Were all of the children on board Titanic saved?

A - No. Lorraine Allison was the only child in first and second class to die. 53 of 76 children in third-class perished. "

http://www.titanic-whitestarships.com/MGY_FAQ.htm

[NMMNG]

50. Wow

RATIO of SURVIVORS
Women & Children_______Men________Total
_______________________________________
First Class
94%__________________31%________60%
_______________________________________
Second Class
81%__________________10%________44%
_______________________________________
Third Class
47%__________________14%________25%
_______________________________________
Crew
87%__________________22%________24%
_______________________________________



Pretty significant disparity between first and third class, much as there is today.

[Toucano]

25. A call to stand up against egalitarian ideals.

I think these manly men must have been kicked out of the Promise Keepers because they were an embarrassment!

[Nobody]

33. Bring back discrimination!

Because we know we can't compete on a level playing field. If life is a marathon, we need a five mile head start, all of the other people have to carry hundred pound weights on their backs the entire way. AND they have to walk. We've also booby trapped the finish line so they can't cross it.

Guess what: We still come in last. The only way we can win is if no one else gets to play.
---

Let's make sure that mindset never again has the power to prevent anyone from playing. Let's make sure that mindset never again has the power to impose all sorts of restrictions on anyone's abilities.

[Hissyspit]

28. 1912...

Everyone about to plunge into an unnecessary first WORLD war of mechanized mass destruction - 20 million Europeans killed or maimed. The introduction of gas warfare, attacks with airplanes. All occurring partially due to archaic out-moded ideas abou how gender and loyalty issues worked in a society dealing with modernity.

I long for those days, too.

Fucking idiots. There are REASONS why the world is not that way anymore.

[xchrom]

30. why do people like the christian boys' society and men's

titanic society get all the good drugs?

[undeterred]

31. I would like all the white males of the Bush admin to die first

on my behalf, and Condi too, since that is her essence.

[Bluebear]

36. 'since that is her essence'

Brilliant. It really does describe her.

[undeterred]

39. a corporate white male trapped in a black womans body

There's no other way to explain her!

[BiggJawn]

32. And MEN locked the gates that kept Third-Class passengers belowdecks.

Oh, yeah, let's hold up Edwardian social "values" as an example to live by.

Haven't I told you folks this bunch of Robber Barons wants to take us back to the "Golden Age" of Vanderbilt, Carnegie, and in this instance, I think it'd be very appropo to mention J. P Morgan (who drowned), and J. Bruce Ismay, who SNUCK onto a lifeboat and hid his face. Don't forget Major Gordon-Duff, who commanded a 60-person boat overloaded with 10 people and their valuables...

[BiggJawn]

51. Duh. John Jacob Astor, not Morgan...

Got my Robber Barons mixed up there....

[Nomen Tuum]

37. Another argument in favor of atheism.

Christianity is getting more irrelevant with each passing day.

[Rhiannon12866]

38. This is supremely stupid.

I know what happened on the Titanic and more men in first class were saved than were children in steerage. In today's world, there should be enough lifeboats for everybody, but Katrina proved that the same values exist today as did in 1912. Very sad and tragic. We need to wake up.;(

[NoPasaran]

41. If all these nutjobs want to take a cruise

And run into an iceberg somewhere, who am I to stop them?
:shrug:

[AuntPatsy]

42. When will they stop trying to silence women in this society?

What are they so scared of?

[robertpaulsen]

43. The irony is so thick you could cut it with an iceberg.

I could joke about this organization's ultimate fate, but that would be like throwing water on a sinking ship.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Solly Mack]

44. Paternalistic patriarchal pus-pocket

And just who test flew the B-29 Superfortress used in WWII...
because the men were too afraid to fly it? (Would Doug Phillips say those men were willing to sacrifice themselves to save women?)

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Air_Power/Women/AP31.htm







Women/WW2
http://userpages.aug.com/captbarb/femvets5.html

[Darth_Kitten]

45. Well, it is men's fault that the Titanic sank anyways!!!!

Men just cannot listen to the little woman and ask for a map. :silly:

[Marie26]

46. That's almost sad.

I think sometimes men don't know who they're supposed to be in modern society. Back then, these guys think, the rules were much simpler. They're creating some sort of idealized fantasy of the "traditional man" that never really existed.

[Kerrytravelers]

47. 1912 was a great time for anyone not white, rich, Christian and male.

But I suppose that is the general make-up for this group of nutcases- rich, white Christian males who live with their heads in a fantasyland.