Strange things about 700 club

[undergroundpanther]

This question some caller called in on Pat Asshole Robertsons show..


Question: I'm 40 years old and have had a sex change. I've been watching your program and wonder if God forgave me, should I live as I am now or go back to my birth gender? Goodness. I'm glad you’re answering this one.

Pat Robertson: "There are people who are born with various types of hormonal activity in their bodies and they feel more male than female or more female than male. I know a plastic surgeon here in this area who indeed does that sort of thing, and to accommodate what's going on in people's lives.
MEEUWSEN: "Which is often a very legitimate hormonal thing happening."

Pat Robertson: "Exactly. So it is not a sin, and so you don't need to feel guilty..."

(Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, October 5, 1999)


Kuefler, Mathew. The Manly Eunuch: Masculinity, Gender Ambiguity, and Christian Ideology in Late Antiquity. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2001.

From the inside flap of the dust jacket:

"The question of masculinity formed a key part of the intellectual life of late antiquity and was crucial to the development of Christian society. This idea is at the heart of Mathew Kuefler's new book, which revisits the Roman Empire during the third, fourth, and fifth centuries of the common era. Kuefler argues that the collapse of the Roman army, an increasingly autocratic government, and growing restrictions on the traditional rights of men within the realms of marriage and sexuality all led to an endemic crisis in masculinity: men of the Roman aristocracy, who had always felt themselves to be soldiers, statesmen, and the heads of households, became, by their own definition, unmanly.

The cultural and demographic success of Christianity during this epoch lay in the ability of its leaders to recognize and respond to this crisis. Drawing on the tradition of gender ambiguity in early Christian teachings, which included Jesus' exhortation that his followers 'make themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven,' Christian writers and thinkers crafted a new masculine ideal. Taking advantage of the changing social realities in Rome, they inverted the Roman model of manliness and helped solidify Christian ideology by reinstating the masculinity of its adherents."

Jesus' true feelings about sex:

The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry."

Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it." (Matthew 19:10-12)

This whole be a Eunech for "the kingdom"thing is scary considering the ex gay"treatment" centers the fanatics run,and the fanatic anti gay hate preached by churches.These fundies are fixated, dangerous to gay people,transpeople and to society.

A psych study in fanaticism
http://www.mgr.org/fanmonk.html

[AlecBGreen]

1. ha

MEEUWSEN: "Which is often a very legitimate hormonal thing happening."

Pat Robertson: "Exactly. So it is not a sin, and so you don't need to feel guilty..."

So does this mean when homosexuality is proven to be a genetically inherited trait they will finally shut the F*** up? Somehow I doubt it. :eyes: