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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:02 AM
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I just fell in love with a nun
This woman on Press the Meat, targeting the religious right as "not real religion" and "targeting one commandment while ignoring the others".

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:07 AM
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1. She's got the correct points straight on, doesn't she?
Truth is powerful. And simple.

You can't cherry-pick the Bible and ignore Christ and call yourself a Christian.
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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:08 AM
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2. You're absolutely correct!
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:08 AM
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3. Did you just see her go back at that priest?
The priest came off looking like a boorish, patronizing jackass. I need to find out more about this woman.
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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:23 AM
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12. You can read her column at ncronline.org.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:25 AM
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14. Just did
Bush cut WIC? What the Hell is wrong with these people?
If there is a just God, I can't see him in judgement saying "Well, you took food away from poor babies, but on the other hand, you didn't let those fags have equal rights, so welcome to heaven!"

At least, no God worthy of worship.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:16 PM
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24. The priest was rolling his eyes and making subtle gyrations
to show his displeasure of what the Nun was saying. His body language was disgustingly obvious.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:09 AM
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4. Rock on Sister!
More will speak up, and more and more...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:09 AM
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5. Did you get the name of this Nun?
I'm a practicing Catholic and would love to know of another who is also questioning this crazy thinking.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:11 AM
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6. In St Louis there is an order of nuns who can always
be found supporting progressive/leftist causes, the Sisters of Loretto.

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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:12 AM
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7. I thought she was great, too.
Edited on Sun Apr-16-06 10:21 AM by highplainsdem
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x943088


That's Sister Joan Chittister, a Benedictine nunm social psychologist and author.

Bill Moyers interviewed her for "Now" in late 2004:

http://www.pbs.org/now/society/chittister.html

Editing to add that the video link on that page still works. Moyers' interview with her is part of a longer story, but it's especially worth watching for what she has to say.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:15 AM
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9. Didn't see your earlier thread
PTM airs a little later here in New York City.
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:13 AM
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8. Joan Chittister
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3898804/

A special Easter Sunday Edition of "Meet the Press with Tim Russert" on Faith in America with a panel of religious leaders and scholars. We'll talk to a Catholic priest and nun; a Jewish rabbi, a Protestant minister, an Islamic scholar and a noted historian about the intersection of faith, morality and politics.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:15 AM
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10. Yeah. This Jewish atheist respects that nun.
She was terrific!

--IMM
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:55 AM
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16. "Jewish atheist"
!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:58 AM
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18. That's what I am.
You can ask my rabbi.:)

--IMM
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:18 AM
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11. She's great!
I love Sr. Joan.

The priest was pissing me off; he was very condescending.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:09 PM
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23. Most of them are. They never learn
Stupid is as stupid does.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:23 AM
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13. Link to video of Bill Moyers' interview of her for "Now" in 2004:
Edited on Sun Apr-16-06 10:26 AM by highplainsdem
http://www.pbs.org/now/society/chittister.html#

This was at the end of my earlier reply in this thread, and it might be overlooked there.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:53 AM
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15. she writes regularly
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:56 AM
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17. Nuns, aren't as dogmatized as the priests.
I credit the nuns for turning me into a liberal and a feminist.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 11:01 AM
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20. On a personal note, I'd love to hear more about that!
"I credit the nuns for turning me into a liberal and a feminist"

it sounds like there's a great short story in there :)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 11:21 AM
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21. It's pretty short.
I went to boarding school a lot while my parents were living in Chile, so I lived with nuns not only during the school year but when everyone else went home for holidays and weekends.

Since nuns have to support themselves and do all the things men usually do, like fix the plumbing and repair the station wagon, they become very self sufficient. Also, they were able to enter professions usually not encouraged for girls, (this was before the counter-revolution of the sixties), like journalism, professorships, law, medicine and any other academic disciplines wherever their order might need them besides the traditional roles of teaching and nursing.

So even though they gave lip service to girls being the good little apron wearing wives having as many children as God wanted to send them, they couldn't help conveying that being a nun was a superior vocation because the only man they had to answer to was the Pope.

About being liberal, by nature nuns do good works like helping the poor and underprivileged, visiting the imprisoned and the elderly. This is very liberal and it rubs off on you. Every Saturday morning they would send any of us who were on campus to go visit the terminal vets in the cancer ward of the the VA. We would play cards with them or talk to them and try to find out if there was anything they needed or family they wanted to contact.

They also taught us not to be prejudiced. We often accompanied them to the homes of poor people of all races and ethnicities delivering food, baby formula, clothes and anything else they might need, which the nuns had collected before.

So even though what they taught us in class was the Church's line on women, their example taught us differently. Of course they were against abortion, but back then it was a bad idea anyway considering the risks because it was illegal.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 04:12 PM
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26. ¿Ha leido Ud. Sor Juana Inez de la Cruz?
;)

Puede leer más aquí (in English):

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~sorjuana/



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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 05:00 PM
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30. Muchas gracias mi Ratoncito Swampito,
Por seguro me voy a leer la biographia de esta monja muy extraordinaria. Hay otra monjas de los epocas pasado que eran estimados igual como los hombres tambien.

:pals:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:58 AM
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19. She's Correct. The "Religious" Right is first & foremost a POLITICAL move
movement. It uses religious rhetoric.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:00 PM
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22. excellent point on law enforcment..
that the bible and the Catholic church is against divorce but doesn't ask for special laws enforcing divorce as a sin..

Luke 16:18
Every one who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.

Mark 10:2-12:
And Pharisees came up and in order to test him asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?" 3 He answered them, "What did Moses command you?" 4 They said, "Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of divorce, and to put her away." 5 But Jesus said to them, "For your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. 6 But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.' 7 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh. 9 What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder." 10 And in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter. 11 And he said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; 12 and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."


John 8 7

"But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote on the ground, as though He heard them not. So when they continued asking Him, He lifted up Himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again He stooped down, and wrote on the ground."
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 03:46 PM
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25. here is a link to the complete Meet The Press transcript from today's
broadcast

link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12283802/

the nun was awesome!!!!!
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 04:27 PM
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29. "Well, I don’t know that, see."
Her response to the conservative priest saying "You know, Sister, capital punishment and abortion are not at the same level of teaching weight." He had this "we shoulda locked the convent door" look. :rofl:
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 05:48 PM
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32. he was just outright rude to her, and she was
very gracious BUT deliberate and pointed in her replies to him. She was great!
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 04:13 PM
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27. She reminded me of my Aunt, an amazing woman and nun.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 04:17 PM
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28. Go and hear her speak if she is ever near you--she is amazing. Timmy
gave her only a few minutes--in person, with her full presentation and answers to audience questions, you will leave inspired. She and Wayne Teasdale, now deceased, helped me understand what Catholicsm COULD be. (I am not Christian.) She would make an ideal pope!
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 05:10 PM
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31. "Press the Meat"? LOL! I could
fall in love with a nun on a show named that!
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