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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:45 AM
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Just saw V for Vendetta--no spoilers...
All I've got to say is Wow. It's quite a statement. My wife and I walked out of the theater blown away by it. Am I alone thinking that the idea is that any or all of us can be V?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:47 AM
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1. You got it.... or Ivie
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:52 AM
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2. Great ! I said the same thing a couple of weeks ago!
I too was blown away!
:bounce:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:13 AM
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3. Knocked my socks off.
I took my 22 year old son and one of his friends for his birthday. My husband went too. We all walked out of it and just looked at each other for a little while, a bit wide eyed then we all smiled. Quite an inspiration, except I maintain non violence, still it can be done that way too.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:22 AM
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4. I truly believe in violence as a last resort...
But when the choice either violence or slavery and tyranny, I'm not sure there's actually a choice involved.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:15 AM
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13. For me
non violence is a difficult thing that I strive for. I was raised in a violent situation, everything was solved with a KO. I have worked through so many issues to bring myself to this point, many because I know my first gut response is to hit to harm. It takes great restraint on my part. I can say that I can maintain non violence to a point. I can't say what my breaking point is but I know if I reach it it will not be pretty and I say this sadly. I try so hard and am so successful but I know there is that point.

V stirred up issues for me that are not comfortable but issues we must all face.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:53 PM
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17. I spent my earlier years studying the martial arts
which, believe it or not, makes me far less likely to resort to violence than many people. Most folks just don't seem to understand how unnecessary it is in most situations. And, yeah, I know what you mean about a violent childhood. Mine was far rougher than it should have been. My dad occasionally apologizes for some of it, as much as he can apologize that is, but that's all water under the bridge now.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 04:45 AM
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5. The DVD isn't available yet,
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 04:52 AM by pnorman
so I just ordered and downloaded the screen play from Amazon.com. It's available in MS Reader or .PDF format for $6.00. Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EHR976/ref=ed_oe_d/102-5464104-3993719?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=551440

Sorry, NO "spoiler". (At least not yet; I haven't read it yet!)

pnorman
On edit: It got a mixed (but generally favorable) review at Amazon.com. Here's one review:
"I know some you out there are purists and it is understandable that you do not like the changes made from the original graphic novel and that is alright, but my approach to this situation is to invite everyone to experience all three (gn, novel and movie) and take a moment to view each as a separate entity. I enjoyed all of them actually for what they were and not trying to impose upon each my impression of the other. It is our ability to take different perspective and view thing through as many frames as possible that allow us to better understand. Preconcieved notions are often our downfall. Don't miss out on what could be a great experience. Try it and see what you get. You might be surprised.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 05:05 AM
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6. I never read the comic
but I'm not that much of a purist about other peoples' work...Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles notwithstanding. I hated what was done to those books.

My own stuff? Yeah, I'd be a bitch to work with when it came to that.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 08:20 AM
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7. I don't know about the comic version.
But instead of getting my ass off to bed, I brewed some coffee and started on the screenplay I had downloaded a while ago. Reading a full-sized book with Adobe Reader wasn't as much a pain as I thought it might be. I'm about halfway through it, and may end up reading it to the end. It's written well enough, but a looong way from being noteworthy writing. I'll most likely get the DVD whenever it becomes available.

pnorman
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:50 PM
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16. Screenplays are hardly my favorite format...
That's not to say, however, that I haven't read my share of them when they struck my interest. I read the screenplay of Spiderman 2 about a year before it came out.

V is very stunning visually...and it's thought provoking as well.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 04:33 PM
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19. I've probably read even fewer than you.
I share your antipathy towards that format, but as I said, the DVD isn't out yet. But the price was right (6 bucks for immediate download). I read a little more of it, and finally got off to sleep. I can imagine the visuals, so I eagerly await the DVD. There's an audible version also available, but I've already used my 2 books per month at http://audible.com.

pnorman
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lauren_victoria Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 08:39 AM
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8. I went and saw V for Vendetta a few weeks ago and brough
along my two best friends, they normally arent the type who would be into the kind of movie it is, but they enjoyed it. I walked out of the theatre completely amazed. I wanted to see it again and again. I even went online and looked up quotes and pictures. I cant wait until the dvd comes out!
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:40 AM
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9. I was really energized after I saw it...
And as far as quotes:


(Paraphrase) "Behind this mask is an idea, and ideas are immune to bullets."
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 10:58 AM
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12. Thanks for the surge of electrical current after reading that great quote!
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 10:17 AM
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10. This is one DVD where I think a "mask" gift set would have MONSTER sales!
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 10:49 AM by calipendence
Now if Warner is smart, they would have a gift package available before the middle of October or earlier, that would contain the V Mask (and perhaps hat, etc. too, or a place on line to order or get a full costume). Then when Halloween comes right before the election, we'd all be equipped with both our DVDs and costumes to repeat what happened in the movie too.

If Warner isn't smart enough (or too "corporate" to do this), perhaps a smaller company like Creative Design (who's done big gift packages in the past for other DVDs) could be persuaded to make this package. Are they still in business? They have done stuff for Warner in the past, like The Matrix, etc. I can't find a website for them now though. An old usenet post indicated that their web address was:

http://www.creativedesignart.com

But that address doesn't link to anything now. We should make sure that these two companies hear about how we WANT this gift package, unlike other films where we might not want the added stuff they put in a DVD set.

It looks like some places are already setting up orders for costumes (ebay, etc.)

http://search.ebay.com/v-for-vendetta-mask_W0QQfnuZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQxpufuZx

http://www.etoilela.com/Vendetta_1.htm



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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 10:41 AM
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11. I'll be V with no violence thank you.
Like the idea, but I think I will take the King approach.
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Ryano42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 11:28 AM
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14. Most assuredly...
We are not yet at the stage that Britain is in the movie, thankfully.

The inspiring message I get from V is to act BOLDLY and DO NOT LIVE IN FEAR. Fear is their tool; perhaps their only one left...

The dominos are falling... :patriot:

Oh...and to make those yummy egg in toast things for breakfast. :9 mmmm
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:11 PM
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15. And also you need to be prepared to sacrifice EVERYTHING!
Some wonder why they went through torturing Portman's character, and perhaps that explanation wasn't as good as it could have been. But it is a message that should hit us here in the U.S. that much more than anywhere else in the world, and is our biggest challenge.

Being a country that hasn't had as significant domestic struggle, revolution, invasion, etc. over the last century as other countries, we don't have many people here that are willing to sacrifice their homes, their experience that civil discourse with many living around them that they've had in the past with our system of Democracy and freedom. It will be a hard choice for many to face here. Other countries like Ukraine have had pasts (the Russian Revolution, the Soviet Union fall, etc.) where they know when "the chips are down" and when the time is upon them where they do need to risk everything to do things like surrounding their capitol until they had their election results corrected, when their political processes were being abused. We're not ready for that yet, but we need to be soon. I think we need to be ready in November this year, if Diebold, etc. has been used against us again then!

It's one thing to overcome fear. It's another to put aside all that you have valued in the past, if you feel the ultimate sacrifice may be needed soon. The hope I have is that those vets coming back from Iraq will have gone through this experience of sacrifice much more than the rest of us have, and perhaps some amongst the "Fighting Dems" will be those that help lead us to this time of sacrifice, if it's needed!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:56 PM
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18. I think that's part of the message as well..
V was the only one of them who used violence, on-screen at least...all the others simply stood up and stepped forward. If you've seen it you know what I mean.
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