Why would China allow us to control Iran?

[Protagoras]

Seriously. I see a lot of our panic focused on whether or not we'll attack/bomb/invade Iran as if Iran is in the same sort of political neutral zone as Iraq. But Iran isn't. China and Russia both have solid ties to Iran don't they? And especially China has the same if not MORE motivation to control oil flow (directing it east) in order to fuel their massive industrialization.

I can't believe China is in any way prepared to sit back and let us grab another chunk of what undoubtedly they view as THEIR oil. We COULDN"T sit by and let them invade Saudi Arabia and I'm having a hard time understanding how China (which out numbers us, which holds our debt, and which is quickly becoming the OTHER military Super Power) can be so easily forgotten in so many of the discussions during the buildup to Chimpy's latest Empire Insanity.

I'm seeing the Archduke Ferdinand if we do this thing.

[nickinSTL]

1. That's the big question...

the problem is...is Bush bright enough to see it? Or too caught up in his God-complex to acknowledge any reality that doesn't accord with his dictates?

I think if we do attack Iran, to say it'll get ugly is a gross understatement. Not only is Iran much stronger militarily than Iraq...but they have the backing of China and Russia.

[blm]

2. Who do you think has been a close partner of China for 30yrs? The BFEE!

Bush1 made his deals with Chinese industrialists and WalMart in the 70s - they don't care about countries and borders when they're working towards the global FASCIST agenda.

Bush's Unle Prescott was also the head of the US-China Chamber of Commerce for years and has been an active developing partner in China since the 70s, coinciding with Bush1's ambassadorship there and then his ascension to head of the CIA.

[brokensymmetry]

3. Maybe they will.

Let us go into Iran...

Then they grab Taiwan.

Then they fund a guerrilla war in Iran to bleed us, just as we did to the Soviets in Afghanistan.

China wins for a minimal cost. And the U.S., broke and broken, limps off into the sunset.

Perhaps?

[Protagoras]

5. That's an angle I hadn't thought of

We look the other way on Taiwan in exchange for a short term action in Iran...and the Chinese laugh their asses off because they can look more than a quarter ahead.

[Fun Doom Mentalist]

4. it's a poker game for Chimp and his crime family bosses

It's like an anxious player who's just won money all night,
and decides he feels lucky and is going to bet it all on a losing hand...
because he thinks the other guy will fold.

Chimp's not going to back down
nor will he ever step down.

In order to remain "Permanently" in place as Dictator
the elections will be have to be postponed indefinitely after the next big "911" event.

[Virginia Dare]

6. It makes me suspicious as well....

there is a chess game going on, and we have Shrubby McChimpster and his merry band of psychopathic criminals playing our side of the board. Somehow I don't think this is going our way.