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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:17 PM
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WORSE NOW than under Saddam Hussein. FACT.
Iraqi women's plight worsens
A new poll of leaders of Iraqi women's-rights groups finds that women were treated better and their civil rights were more secure under deposed President Saddam Hussein than under the faltering and increasingly sectarian U.S.-installed government.
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=ERBE-04-17-06

Iraq's basic services worse now than before war, GAO says
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001968744_gao30.html

Iraq Economy Worse Than Under Hussein
https://registration.ft.com/registration/barrier?referer=&location=http%3A//news.ft.com/cms/s/ecf74b6c-9f15-11da-ba48-0000779e2340.html

Better or worse? Iraqis ponder life after Saddam;
"If the percentage of the good life was one percent before, it is zero percent now,"

"Before the war, life was better because all Iraqis, including Kurds, shared the same enemy," television anchorwoman Sara Abdul Wahid, 36, from the Kurdish city of Dohuk, said of Saddam. "Now there is more than one and we can't differentiate between friend and foe."
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/COL541735.htm

Iraqis Endure Worse Conditions Than Under Saddam
http://www.health-now.org/site/article.php?menuId=14&articleId=446

Iraqis now 58 times more likely to die
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3962969.stm

Iraq2i child malnutrition rate doubles;
Almost twice as many Iraqi children are suffering from malnutrition since the U.S.-led invasion toppled Saddam Hussein
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-03-30-un-iraq-malnutrition_x.htm

Iraq Worse Off Now Than With Saddam
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0406-01.htm

Iraq health care 'in deep crisis'
Iraq's health system is in a far worse condition than before the war.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4054105.stm

“Torture, abuses worse than under Saddam”
http://middleeastinfo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8724

Iraqis polled: War did more harm than good
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-04/29/content_327216.htm

Human Rights Abuses Worse Now Than Under Saddam
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/03/02/fmr-un-official-human-_n_16668.html

US Occupation is Worse Than Hussein
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-scheer/us-occupation-is-worse-_b_11455.html

Iraqi women worse off under US-led occupation
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/619/619p8b.htm

Amnesty: Iraqi Women No Better Off Post-Saddam
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0222-08.htm

Iraqi standard of living worse now
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-01-25-dean-iraq-today_x.htm

We are ALL worse off now because of BUSH's war of aggression against the people of Iraq;

Terrorism threat worse in wake of Iraq war
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200601/s1543486.htm

Iraq War Blamed for Increased Terrorist Threat
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/11107

Iraq War Increased Terror Threat: Global Poll
Most people in 33 out of 35 countries worldwide believe that the US-led invasion of Iraq has increased the threat of terrorism,
http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/02/1805227.php

Iraq war may have made terror threat worse
http://www.upi.com/member/login.php

Iraq war could create a new bin Laden
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060118-050321-6448r

US Figures Show Sharp Global Rise In Terrorism
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/26/AR2005042601623.html

United States: Losing the War on Terror
http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/terrorwar/analysis/2004/aprilharder.htm

Evidence that the US May Be Losing the Global War on Terror
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1501

US: Three Years On, War on Terrorism Looks Like a Loser
http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=25437

”We have a stronger jihadi presence in Iraq today than in March 2003,” noted Roger Cressey, the former director for Transnational Threats in Bush's National Security Council at a briefing at the libertarian Cato Institute earlier this week.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0911-01.htm

The 'War on Terrorism': Winning or Losing? Losing.
http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/publications/briefings/winningorlosing.htm

Terror threat to US called 'significant'
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/27/terror.report /

Global terror attacks triple in 2004
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0428/dailyUpdate.html

Worldwide terrorism-related deaths on the rise
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5889435%20 /

US Losing the War on Terror in Iraq; The invasion of Iraq has increased, not decreased, the threat of terrorist attack
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2629.html

Occupation Made World Less Safe, Pro-War Institute Says
http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/terrorwar/analysis/2004/0526iissreport.htm

Iraq Invasion Hurt War on Terror
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0719-10.htm

Musharraf: World more dangerous because of Iraq War
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/25/03544/7945

Blix Says Iraq War May Have Worsened Terror Threat
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0319-02.htm

Poll: Aussies, Brits, Italians say Iraq war increased terrorism
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/5027215.html

Iraq intervention increased threat of terrorism ("intervention"??? What exactly was being "intervened"???)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0409/S00127.htm

UK Government; Iraq war 'increased terror threat'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3451239.stm

Iraq war has swollen ranks of al Qaeda
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1063717,00.html

US State Department Corrects Report to Show Rise in Terrorism
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5264512 /

Iraq has become a terrorist spawning ground, CIA admits
http://www.smh.com.au/news/After-Saddam/Iraq-a-terrorist-spawning-ground-CIA-admits/2005/02/17/1108609349394.html?oneclick=true

Iraq Conflict Feeds International Terror Threat
http://www.skyhen.org/Focus/iraqcoverage/cia_iraq_conflict_feeds_international_terror_threat.php

But a clear majority of Americans KNEW this would be the result; we are all LESS SAFE NOW BECAUSE OF BUSH;

62 percent thought that the threat of terror would increase if the U.S. takes military action against Iraq.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/07/opinion/meyer/main539846.shtml

"One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief. If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency."
-george w. bush, 1999

2376.
http://icasualties.org/oif/


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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:18 PM
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1. K & R
Awesome post!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:23 PM
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3. Thanks!
Death. Destruction. WORSE than Saddam Hussein.

Way to go, bush! You're going down in history, alright.

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:28 PM
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5. please add it to your journal
Thanks :thumbsup:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:52 AM
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21. And to the research forum! n/t
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:23 PM
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2. And this is all good news to "conservatives"
Human rights abuses, the abuse of women, torture, slaughter, mayhem, muslims suffering. All great news to "conservative" Americans. The killing of American Soldiers is of no concern to "conservatives." To die is their job and they volunteered to serve their country.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:25 PM
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4. Humanity is of no concern to "conservatives".
No souls. No hearts.

And for sure no BRAINS.
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:29 PM
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6. Not to be seen as a advocate of this war, this is interesting
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/166.php?nid=&id=&pnt=166&lb=

Iraqis overall have a positive view of the toppling of Saddam Hussein. Asked, “Thinking about any hardships you might have suffered since the US-Britain invasion, do you personally think that ousting Saddam Hussein was worth it or not?” 77% say it was worth it, while 22% say it was not.

However, here again, the ethnic divisions are very sharp. Ninety-eight percent of Shia and 91% of Kurds say the hardships were worth it, while 83% of Sunnis say they were not.


Mind you, it just goes to show the potential for continued ethnic strife, and the hazards of going to war without considering the repercussions.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:33 PM
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7. I'd like to have a cross-section of Iraqi people in that poll....
...I bet a lot more people would say it wasn't worth it if they felt there would be no repurcussions for saying so.
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 03:28 PM
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13. 47% say they approve of “attacks on US-led forces"
A substantial portion of Iraqis support attacks on US led-forces, but not attacks on Iraqi government security forces or Iraqi civilians. Ethnic groups varied sharply on these questions.

Overall, 47% say they approve of “attacks on US-led forces” (23% strongly). There are huge differences between ethnic groups. An extraordinary 88% of Sunnis approve, with 77% approving strongly. Forty-one percent of Shia approve as well, but just 9% strongly. Even 16% of Kurds approve (8% strongly).


If they were under duress, why would they admit this?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:53 PM
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8. And so many Iraqi polls say the opposite.
"the hazards of going to war without considering the repercussions"

You mean such as using a big pile of LIES to INVADE and OCCUPY and SLAUGHTER hundreds of thousands of people in a nation that had been doing NOT ONE DAMN THING to us or to anyone else? Yeah, I guess such a "supreme crime" (Nuremburg Tribunal) as a war of aggression bush is waging against the people of Iraq would entail "hazards" and "repercussions".
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:27 PM
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9. Bush's mission was accomplished: Exec Order 13303, May 2003
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 02:30 PM by Dr. Jones
Just after Bush declared Mission Accomplished in May of 2003, he signed Executive Order 13303 handing over Iraq's oil reserves to American companies and shielding these companes from legal prosecution in the United States.

Bush's mission was accomplished to steal Iraq's oil. He didn't care about the outcome. It's just too bad he send our troops into war for a lie.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:46 PM
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10. Send it to Holy Joe so he'll have heart palpitation and drop
out of the senate race.

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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:56 PM
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11. Where's Wolfowitz and Perle?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:58 PM
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12. Perle's busy being surprised about no bush statue in Baghdad;
Wolfowitz is busy licking his comb.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 05:49 PM
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16. That did leave an indelible image, his licking the comb and then
smiling about it, freakishly.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 06:46 PM
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17. eeeesh
That was something else...

:scared:
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 03:34 PM
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14. Boy when you present your evidence
you come on strong girl. :kick: and :thumbsup:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 04:32 PM
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15. Missy Lynn
Ain't no fuckin' lightweight! ;-)
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 07:22 PM
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18. I believe "worse" is the Bush Admin goal for Iraq. nt
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 08:23 PM
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19. But better for BushCo, the oil, permanent bases, and all the
corrupt pockets full of defense dollars.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 08:49 PM
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20. And to bushCo, that is, of course, all that matters.
Why should they bother their beautiful minds about We the People.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 05:02 AM
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22. But of course, the peons don't matter at all.... nt
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