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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:23 PM
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Ed Schultz - "bake sale liberals" vs "the real way to do business"
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 01:24 PM by jsamuel
I think that is the issue that everyone has been dancing around. I haven't payed too much attention to this whole "Ed Schultz is moderate, not really a liberal" business. But this seems to be the issue:

Ed Schultz doesn't like public funding. He likes big bucks from big investors. Owners... possibly Corporations...

That is what the issue is here. Many of us do not consider people coming from big money trustworthy. They often have more motives to gain profit than to do what is right. Our entire political situation right now in the US is tied directly to the abuses of big money and corporations in our politics. Now, most of these are RW, but only because the RW are giving them the best chance to make profit by keeping wages low, ect... However, the same thing applies to LW companies. We have to be careful of them too. Everyone likes to have the big guys on your side, but we all know they cannot be trusted. Companies can be bought, sold, traded... Just look at CNN... Sad story right there...

Then look at PBS. Public funding. Despite the years and years of the RW and the Bush admin trying to make it RW, they have been unsuccessful. It is resistant to such biases simply because they are independent and run by the people for the people.

Ed might call this "ignorant" and "inexperienced" but we all know where getting "experienced" in this business gets you. In the pocket of big money and big money almost always ends up back in the RW.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:29 PM
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1. who says they haven't been successful; at PBS?
they have been moderately successful
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:30 PM
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5. and going to jail for attempting
;)
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:29 PM
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2. That's true
It's a catch 22 in a way. We need to compete in a system set up largely to benefit the wealthy and the powerful and the corporations, while at the same time fighting to make the system more fair and democratic. If we swear off money from the wealthy and so on, will be competitive? On the other hand if we take such money, will we be corrupted and abandon our principals?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:30 PM
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3. I agree.
Now, I'm going to wait for the real fireworks when benburch shows up.
:popcorn:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:30 PM
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4. Screw Big Eddie...
This is just another topic about which he's on the wrong page.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:59 PM
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10. Ed Schultz is NOT the brightest guy around.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:09 PM
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11. well his bulb burns bright enough for me to recognize his value..
I happen to like the guy and think he offers a great perspective on many issues. I don't always agree but if I dissed everyone with whom I ever disagree I'd have no partner, family, or friends.

I thought this "your with us or against us" was a Republican misperception.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:51 AM
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13. Ok, I see your point and respect it. Perhaps he is a lot brighter...
than I thought. It could be that I don't understand him well enough.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:16 PM
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15. I appreciate Ed because he seems to read emails and his research
on issues has improved over the time I've listened to him.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:32 PM
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6. Bake sales and public funding are fine
But it's no match for corporate money, and that's what I want for Left wing radio. There are plenty of well to do liberal businesspersons out there who would be happy to sponsor liberal radio.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:34 PM
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7. As Head On Radio Network will have a formal business plan soon...
...I'd love having a list of those businesspersons who would love to become investors.

Got it handy?

:-)
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:34 PM
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8. Government is for business by business.
Your comment about PBS: "It is resistant to such biases simply because they are independent and run by the people for the people."

This should be the goal of our government. We certainly know that our government, local and federal, is run for the corporation motivated by the meme: economic growth. Look at the bush medicaid bill that does nothing but help big pharma. They aren´t just in the pocket, they´re sharing the same suit.

Who says economic growth is all that good anyway?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:46 PM
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9. most of the econimic growth has been in Fascist Corporate Profits
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 06:01 PM
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12. As progressives, we have buying power. Businesses should market
to us. We should buy from businesses that advertise on our progressive radio stations.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 04:06 AM
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14. I don't think that's it at all
Business investment, him and a friend of his, run professionally with plenty of up-front money.

Verse the $80,000 raised through the pixel sale, that is nowhere near the $500,000 needed, and that's just for 6 months.

I think that's the problem Ed has with this pixel sale model, it's not sustainable and it isn't even working.

Now, here's the part I don't know and that's why he wasn't able to buy the station if he had the money. If the deal got messed up because somebody thought he was financing it through pixel sales, then I'd be pissed if I were Ed too. But I don't know what happened there.

I don't know why he went off on Mike Newcomb, shouldn't matter to him what someone is doing in Phoenix. That's the part I don't get.

Although I do understand his point about professional radio.
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