How low can Michelle Malkin get?

[Peanutcat]

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004974.htm

Because she doesn't like anti-war protesters, she posted the personal contact information of those students at UC Santa Cruz that DARED protest military recruiters being on campus. Now I don't mind her having her own opinion, but posting personal information is as low as a human being can go. Now those students are receiving death threats,(http://saw.revolt.org/node/51), and Malkin, who was politely asked to remove the personal information from her site, post the the information again!

So if you really care about what Malkin has done, please contact her and ask POLITELY to remove the offending information and apologize to the protesters. I've already done so, And I want to see how many people follow my lead.

[Cleita]

1. Why don't you just report her to the proper law enforcement?

There has got to be a law against this. Maybe the ACLU can help.

[Clark2008]

59. There is no law against posting information that can be

gathered through a city directory, the Internet or a student directory.

While I find Malkin evil and despicable, she didn't publish any information that couldn't be gathered somewhere else by anyone searching for that type of information. We cannot restrict this information, less we become as secretive and restrictive as BushCo. If any of these students wanted their info kept private, they could have opted for private phone numbers or asked to be left out of the directory. She just put all the information in one place, actually.

It's an information age.

That said, I think she's a low-down, dirty bitch for compiling this info to give her freaky readers another venue for spewing their hate, but it's not against the law.

[Cleita]

60. She did it with the intent to cause harm to those individuals and

I think there is a law against this. She abused the fact that she has a high public profile to hurt people she disagrees with. My personal information is in the public domain also, but nobody has a picture of me to identify with my personal information and they aren't publishing it all over the place.

Anyway, I have found out that by calling various law enforcement agencies when I felt I was wronged that they will tell you what the law is in their jurisdiction and if they can't help,try an ACLU lawyer. They can advise you what your rights are in this matter. I believe you do have rights.

[dogday]

62. If she incites her readers to act upon this

information, I believe there is a law against that.. That is if they harass or threaten or harm...

[MadMaddie]

2. Can criminal charges be filed against her for this....?

She has posted personal information and that has directly led to death threats....any lawyers out there.....?

[Freedom_from_Chains]

11. Not if it is public information to begin with, which is pretty easy

to find. Tack less? Yes. Illegal? No.

[havocmom]

14. So, we can ferret out public info on her and publish it?

:evilgrin:

Now, where was that site with property tax info complete with names and addresses....

[Freedom_from_Chains]

52. And yes, you can put that out there too if you would like.

[havocmom]

54. Anybody know what state and county the woman has homes in?

So we can find her property tax data online and get her address out there on the web?

[Freedom_from_Chains]

61. If I get some time this week I will try to look into it.

Of course with media types you can't bank on there ""on-air" name, but I will see what I can scrounge up.

[Catrina]

45. A death threat is illegal ~ if the threats came in email, the senders

should be easy to find and prosecute.

She could be sued, imo, for encouraging the harming of another person. What was the purpose of posting personal info if it wasn't to facilitate what happened? Let her answer in court! Even they lose, it'll cost her financially. These people don't respond to 'polite' requests, they laugh at them.

The students should get together and file a lawsuit against her, and the perpetrators need to be prosecuted and then sued. This type of behavior needs to get a strong reaction. They've gotten away with their cowardly and imo, dangerous behavior for way too long.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

53. Which certainly they could do but in the past these kind of suits

have been hard to prove as the subject of intent (mens rea) is very slippery.

On edit: And I forgot, if you bring suit and loose, I could then counter-sue you for my damages in legal expenses.

[KingFlorez]

3. That's terrible

She knows the crazy Bush freaks will send them threats, that's why she did it. If somebody did that to pro-war protesters, she go into a tizzy.

[Jack Rabbit]

12. She is a crazy Bush freak

Yes, she knew the rest, too. Consider it a passive/aggressive death threat on her part.

[regnaD kciN]

17. Yes, but...

If somebody did that to pro-war protesters, she go into a tizzy.

...let's be honest here -- if somebody did that to pro-war protesters (or any other conservative group), most people here would be congratulating them for posting the information and declaring that said targets "deserve it."

:shrug:

[Richard Steele]

24. Not hardly. Not even most of the time. Almost never, actually....

Such occurences are NOT entirely uncommon here.

However, they are almost always followed by a prompt DELETION of
the post or thread containing the personal info,
and a warning to the poster
that we don't do the 'stalking' thing here at DU.

[AX10]

4. Call the police.

Malkin should be arrested and thrown in GITMO. God damn right wing nazis! :grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:

[gumby]

5. Olbermann awarded her "Worst Person In The World"

tonight for that stunt. Good on him. Bad on her.

[walldude]

7. Gee if liveoaktx was here I'd beg her for the clip... n/t

[Catch22Dem]

15. Where's liveoak?

Scheduled absence or did I miss something?

[walldude]

29. You missed something... check out this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x950958

[alfredo]

16. here

http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=18610

[walldude]

32. Hehe.. thanks.. though I had it already. I was just editorializing

on the hopefully temporary absence of liveoak....

[alfredo]

38. I will watch it after this DVD finishes.

I'm watching the Paul McCartney concert film, "Back In the U.S."


Fantastic.

[VolcanoJen]

42. Just saw that on the repeat!!! Worst Person In The World!

Absolutely deserving.

Can we claim Keith as one of our own, yet? Sure feel like it...

[acmavm]

6. Can somebody get her personal info? Surely there's a number of

places it could be posted. Didn't Man Coulter have that problem recently?

[YOY]

8. Do she and Ann Coulter try to one up each other?

Seriously, it's like a fascist bitch contest between the two of them.

[SeattleGirl]

9. Just when you thought she couldn't go any lower, she does

I ho9pe those students are contacting attorneys. It seems she could get charged as at least an accessory to a crime if they figure out who is making the death threats.

[Kingshakabobo]

19. Unfortunately, she pulled the info from THEIR press release.

Unfortunately, these kids weren't savvy enough to leave personal info off the release. Doesn't make Malkin any less of a scumbag though.

[Solo_in_MD]

22. The error of youth

You are quite right, they made it public, all she did was propigate their press release. Can't really blame her for this one, though that does not make her any less of a repuke scum

[Peanutcat]

40. What I CAN blame her for

Is when she was asked to remove the information from her site, she went ahead and posted it AGAIN! That makes her a bitch in my book.

[SeattleGirl]

46. I absolutely agree with you, PC

When one is asked to remove something of a personal nature, one should comply unless there is a compelling reason not to. In this case, there was NO compelling reason, other than Malkin's own evil nature.

[Solo_in_MD]

48. You are aware that other sites like Indy Media have it up as well?

Even if Indy and Malkin took it down, copies would be out there. The net has an infinitely long memory. They need to change their contact info, learn not to be stupid like this, and move on.

[regnaD kciN]

23. To some extent, it's the students' own fault...

...they're the ones who put out the contact information on a press release, thus making it public information.

That doesn't justify death threats or harrassment, of course, but when you release your personal information, you shouldn't be too surprised if your opponents take advantage of it by posting it where others can see it. Publishing public information is scarcely a criminal matter.

I find this far less offensive than either:

a) when the Bush twins were busted for underage drinking at Chuy's in Austin, a few right-wingers managed to acquire the (non-public) name, address, phone and Social Security numbers of the waitress who turned them in, and posted that on the Internet,

b) during the lead-up to the Kobe Bryant rape trial, Bryant supporters similarly posted the name, address, and other personal information of the alleged accuser, including photos of her and even an aerial photograph indicating her house,

c) after Tikkun editor Rabbi Michael Lerner wrote material judged too "pro-Palestinian" by certain pro-Israeli hard-liners, said hard-liners put out flyers calling him a "traitor to Judaism," and including his address, phone number, and the names and photos of his children, plus the routes they followed when they walked to school.

Any of those are far more condemnable than merely making a wider post of information the students had already published themselves.

[FredScuttle]

33. Not really

while the students erred by putting their personal information on a press release, it was a press release, not a public document. The press etiquette is not to publish that personal information unless OK'd by the subject. Malkin is a disgusting slime.

[regnaD kciN]

50. "Press Etiquette"...

...is a noble concept, but there's something to be said for not assuming that etiquette will always be followed.

I've had cases where newspapers (granted, small-town weeklies rather than the NYT) routinely published the contact info in any story generated by a press release.

The good news is that it appears that the only thing provided, and published, were the students' names, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses. That would permit harrassment, certainly, but providing their home or dorm addresses could get them killed.

I once received death threats for a LTTE (against homophobia) published in a local paper. Note that this was not a press release with contact info; the harrasser simply looked up my name (published as part of the letter) in the local phone book. Fortunately, I was living in a large apartment complex, and while the phone book listed the street address of the complex, it provided no clue as to which of the 200+ units in the complex was mine. (And that was the last time I ever had a listed phone number!)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

35. Don't forget Andy...

What they did to him earned them an eternity in hell

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=383284&mesg_id=383284

[Dogmudgeon]

10. It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye

Or a life.

Michelle Malkin writes, angrily, "Grow up and take responsibility." I think that's a very good idea; Malkin should start with numero uno.

And if one or more of those organizers is assaulted and possibly killed, then Michelle should plead "Guilty" and demand that no leniency be shown at her sentencing.

--p!

[Freedom_from_Chains]

13. Nooooo, that is when all the fun starts for these people

You know, the old eye for and eye and tooth for a tooth thing.

[YouthInAsia]

18. I wish someone would post her damn home phone number or

address.

[Solo_in_MD]

20. You need to look a bit deeper into this

The students put that very same information in a press release. I agree with what some posted on DK, they did this to themselves. (http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2006/4/17/19922/7926/119#c119) Attack her for what she has really done, not this non-event.

[Peanutcat]

44. She's the one who crossed the line--

It just shows what kind of person she is when she was asked to remove the information from her site, she went ahead and posted it again. That's just acting like a bitch, don't you think?

[Solo_in_MD]

47. You are aware that it is still up in other places?

They are whinning over the results of thier own stupidity. Hopefully those students and those around them have learned from this. Much of this was self induced, though there is more than enough blame to go around. They will get hate mail, Malkin will get hate mail, and the sun will rise in the east in the morning. This is less of a story than Aruba.

[Ksec]

21. So whats her address?

telephone number, family members addresses, childrens names, what time she takes her morning shit, etc...


Hey, one good turn deserves another, I say.

[Bobbieo]

25. Malkin has crossed the line of professional journalism

[Oeditpus Rex]

36. Wouldn't be hard for her

since she isn't a professional journalist, but just another hate-blogger.

[regnaD kciN]

28. There's info on the student group's website...

http://saw.revolt.org/node/51

It's down at the bottom of the comments section. I'm not posting it here, because I can't vouch for its authenticity. (It might be some other "Michelle Malkin"...does anyone know whether the psychopundit is married to a man named Jesse and lives in Germantown, Maryland?)

[bluestateguy]

26. She'll be on the A list for the re-education camps when Dems' get back in

Cuz she is going to need many years of re-educating.

Maybe a few continuous semesters of indoctrination from a Marxist professor at an Ivy League school would do it?

Other ideas?

[GrumpyGreg]

30. Good lord,you sound like Chairman Mao !

[AX10]

56. rofl

:rofl:

[chaumont58]

27. It can not be stated. There is no bottom to the god damn repukes.

*

[regnaD kciN]

31. While I think the students were careless to post their personal info...

...it doesn't justify the treatment they have received. Here are a few examples of e-mails they got from the Malkinoids (edited for content):

You will pay for your seditious activities. It is only a matter of time...We are retired military snipers & we are watching you...

I hope one fine young American very, very soon puts his shiny gun barrel up to your left temple and pulls the trigger. Now THAT will make America a much, much better place to live for the rest of us, you utterly disgusting piece of sh*t...

F*ck*ng pansy do**h*b*g, you're lucky one of those recruiters didn't put his foot up your silly little ass. Get cancer, you traitorous sh*t breath c*cks*ck*r.

:puke:

My idea: if you look part-way down the student group's website, you'll find their phone numbers and e-mail addresses are still posted. (Look for the post titled "please contact indymedia and.") Instead of retaliating with hate posts against Malkin and her ilk, might I suggest that DUers consider sending them positive messages to counter the Malkinoid Hate Fest?

Here's what I sent them:

A message of support

I just wanted the three of you to know that there are a whole lot of people who support you -- far more than any nutcases whose lives are so bereft of positive meaning that they get themselves hooked on the spewings of a psycho-blogger like Malkin.

Keep up the good fight!

[immoderate]

37. Malkin published her hate mail as a book.

These students might easily acquire enough material to publish a sequel of hate mail from Malkin supporters. Michelle stirs up hate from both sides.

--IMM

[Mr_Spock]

34. How low? She's a human pooper scooper.

She licks it off the ground.

She's gonna burn in hell for sure.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

39. This isn't the first time she's done this if I recall. I seem to recall

other threads talking about someone else's (somebody Cornell?) personal info that had been posted on her site.

[Skittles]

41. she is a f***ing BUSH WHORE

meaning she will go lower than you can even IMAGINE

[Golden Raisin]

43. Lower than whale shit.

[kevinbgoode]

49. She really must be the most emotionally immature

of the wingnut brat pack - a title that is rather hard to win, considering the competition. Frankly, I don't see why anyone publishes her tantrums at all - and stunts like this should be used as evidence to demand her work be removed from newspapers. She isn't mature enough to have anything to say - and isn't capable of participating in the public discourse without resorting to middle school bullying.

If she appears in your local newspaper, enlighten them to this BS and request they replace her with an adult.

[doc mercer]

51. Malkin

If someone kicked her ass and put her in the hospital:

WHO CARES as she ranks w/Limbaugh, Coulter and Hannity for their bullcrap
warped views

[rd_kent]

55. K.O. talked about this last night, but I think.....

he should have given an eye for an eye and gotten HER personal info and put it out on his show.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

57. No, because then he'd be doing ths ame thing and descending to

her level.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

58. Um.

Posting personal contact information of political opponents, often with winking encouragements to harrass them, is something I see fairly regularly here on DU.

I agree with you that it's immoral, but I don't think it's unusual, and the left do it too.

She shouldn't be doing it, but if she's as low as a human being can go then a lot of liberals are down there with her.

[TexasLawyer]

63. That's cyber-stalking

she's really something.

[Paladin]

64. She Did The Same Thing To Chris Matthews A While Back

Dear little Michelle got cross-ways with Tweety some time ago. I read her column in which she described the incident, and I remember that she published some personal information about him---his home address, or phone number, or both.

Really, really sick behavior......