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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:39 AM
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read what a Texan said about Katrina and N.O.

http://www.counterpunch.com/


"Katrina was the act of God. This was actually a good thing. There were too many Black people in New Orleans before. Too many of them. Katrina took care of this. New Orleans will be a better city in the future. You know, people call this a disaster. Katrina was not a disaster. Tsunami was a disaster. This was not."

-- a Texan I interviewed in New Orleans.
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the above was the opening for this article:

Seven Months After Katrina
In the Gaze of New Orleans

-snip-

the last paragraph of the article:

What happened after Katrina "was not an evacuation. It was an invasion," Ronald Dorris repeated. His view was not uncommon among the African Americans. The oldest African American city of the country was stolen from its residents.
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another criminal bushmilhousegang coup d'etat
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:40 AM
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1. Did he say this while attaching chains to his trailerhitch?
What an ass.

The continued existence of people like him proves there is no God :P
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:42 AM
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4. I'm not a violent man...
...but I'd get a large degree of satisfaction by kicking his ass roundly.:grr:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:41 AM
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2. No surprises
I've heard it before. Ignorance, fear, hate. Powerful forces in the world today.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:41 AM
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3. Boy that Texan is going to be surprised when (s)he gets
to Heaven to find all those black people - I mean, just before St. Peter bitch-slaps his/her ass down to Hell for being such a racist pig.

Act of God to kill black people? OMG! How does one even BEGIN to think like that?! :puke:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 12:00 PM
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10. and also suprised when God looks like Angela Davis.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:42 AM
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5. and I am sure the above quote was from a "Christian"
I'm sure they truly believe that they are Christian and go to church every Sunday and hate all of the gays based on their version of the Bible. I never cease to be amazed at the hatred in some people's hearts- shameless hatred. As if you could separate the culture history and legacy of NOLA from those who lived there?
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:56 AM
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7. It comes as no surprise that hatred and religion are closely related
Both are the result of fear and insecurity.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 12:09 PM
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13. Religion is not based on fear and hatred
At least, it shouldn't be. It should be based on love and respect for God, and all of His creations.

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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:54 AM
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6. Funny thing is, everything that was really good about NOLA
came directly from the black people that lived here, the music, the food, the style, everything. New Orleans is going to suck now. :(
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:57 AM
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8. That's nowhere near as bad as the people in Baton Rouge
People come up to ME, knowing my extended family lost everything in Katrina, and tell me it was an act of God.

The other day at Easter dinner, my Uncle from Chalmette, who is a diehard Republican who lost everything in the storm, was repeating the talking point that it was the locals primary responsiblity.

People will go a long, long, long way to prevent cognitive dissonance, and protect their self-identity. If they voted for Bush because they believe he's a good guy, they will protect him no matter what he does. It's not him they're protecting, it's their own faith in their own judgement.

I've heard more horrible things said about the Katrina evacuees than you can imagine, and I'm an hour away from it all. I think it goes back to that problem that Repubs have with bad logic. When people believe so strongly that they are the ones who are responsible for what happens to them, when something bad happens, they assume that it's the victim's fault. They can't tell a statement from its converse.

Look at the rhetoric surrounding the Duke rape victim. Look how much sympathy they have for Cindy Sheehan. These are the same people who blamed Enron employees for not diversifying their portfolios.

I guess when you have a culture that is so violently reactionary away from any sort of victim mentality, they pounce on anyone who could possibly seen as a victim. They don't have any sort of moral compass except to condemn people who need help, because all they know is that nasty Liberals just want handouts, and they want to identify themselves as the opposite of that.

You have no idea how much faith in humanity I've lost over the last 8 months. It doesn't help that they're still finding bodies, they've stopped the death count with 2000+ still "missing", and that the rest of the nation is so scandal fatigued they can't understand that these last 8 months of neglect are an extension of the tragically lazy response to a real crisis.

American citizens are living in aluminum trailers, in 3rd world conditions. These are people just like you and me. Please don't make the mistake of thinking Louisiana, or any of the rest of the gulf south is like a foreign country, where we're used to it anyway. These people are just like you, and they are suddenly living in animalistic conditions, with no certainty about the future. Please don't forget them.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 12:36 PM
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14. This is part of the problem of living in a "meritocracy"
We believe, foolishly methinks, that people are rewarded in our society based on their merit. If they work hard, they do well. This is rarely the case. More often than not it's the risk-takers that do well, when they win. Of course, when risk-takers lose they're considered to be irresponsible, and sometimes bipolar.

It's sad, and we need to grow up and realize that really bad things happen over which people have no control. When they do, we need to be adult enough to take responsibility and help our brothers back onto their feet, rather than pointing the finger and saying "he did it to himself," like so many spoiled children.

It's hard to believe that in this so-called "Christian nation" we don't understand this, and haven't made it a cultural priority. :(
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 01:41 PM
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17. That hit the nail on the head. It's a naive belief that bad things don't
happen to good people. Ergo, if something bad happens, that person must have brought it on themselves.

Believe me, there are Katrina evacuees who are blaming themselves right now, because they have to stick to this belief. Otherwise, their whole world would crumble around them, even more than it already has.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:57 AM
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9. This guy isn't a Texan, he is from Foolsville
poor state has been through the muck with all these fools....
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Buck Laser Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 12:02 PM
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11. That wouldn't have been Barbara Bush, would it? n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 12:06 PM
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12. what a texas bible teacher said to a class of 7th graders
ina private christian school

god wrath for all the decadence

when i showed my outrage to my niece for the ugly comment to dismiss the deaths of baby, blaming their deaths on their sin.... she told me but but but we prayed for them

then i really went off the handle and told her, bully tfor them, first condemn them, but are those in her school such good little christians, look they pray for the heathens.

by then total disgust and i was taking deep breaths
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 12:41 PM
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15. Is that "Texan" happy to know that many of the NOLA blacks....
Have moved to Texas? I hope that most of them can return, but will be glad to keep any who choose to stay here.

Of course, Houston already had a significant African-American population. Perhaps this hooplehead lives Way Out West--where they only have Mexicans to look down on.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 12:51 PM
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16. My response to people like this is usually a short one...
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 12:51 PM by tjwash
...Jesus was an Arab, there are Africans in your family tree, and the bible was written mostly by Roman pagans.

Now go retreat into whatever pseudo-christianity that goes against everything that the sermon on the mountain said, and leave us normal people alone.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 01:44 PM
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18. Two guesses who he voted for in 2004
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 01:44 PM
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19. Was that "Texan" Poppy bush or georgie or "beautiful mind" Babs?
I know plenty of Texans and not one of them would say something so vile.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 01:45 PM
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20. Here's a bucket, here's a rope, lynch him!
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