Piss Me OFF!! Illegal Aliens Recruit Workers: Companies Behind Push! -->

[Dr. Jones]

So it's no wonder why illegals cross our borders illegally. They are ENCOURAGED to do so. I did not realize that such a widespread campaign had been going on here AND in Mexico to encourage them to sneak across our borders illegally!

But I should have known. Bush encourages it. Fox encourages it. They are INVITING illegals to come into our country to usurp the jobs Americans WILL do and DO do!

I suppose if I were an impoverished Mexican citizen, I too would accept the invitation. It's just so sad they're being lied to and manipulated, all for the greed of American companies who can't possibly live without their low-paid, non-unionizing, will-do-anyting-for-work slave labor pool.

Illegal aliens recruit workers
By Julie Watson and Olga R. Rodriguez
ASSOCIATED PRESS

April 18, 2006

SASABE, Mexico -- A growing number of U.S. employers in need of cheap labor are turning to illegal workers to recruit friends and relatives back home, and to smugglers to find job seekers.

"It continues to become clear who controls immigration: It's not governments, but rather the market," said Jorge Santibanez, director of the Tijuana think tank Colegio de la Frontera Norte. When Pedro Lopez Vazquez crossed illegally into the United States last week, he already had a job. His future employer even paid $1,000 for a smuggler to help Mr. Vazquez make his way from the central Mexican city of Puebla to Aspen, Colo.

"We're going to Colorado to work in carpentry because we have a friend who was going to give us a job," Mr. Vazquez said. Mr. Vazquez, 41, was interviewed along the Arizona border after being deported twice by the U.S. Border Patrol. He said he would keep trying until he got to Aspen.

His story is not unusual. Darcy Tromanhauser of the nonprofit law project Nebraska Appleseed said companies in need of workers rely on the underground employment networks to "pass along the information more effectively than billboards." "It started out more explicitly, where companies used to have buses to transport people to come up, and they would advertise directly in Mexico," she said. "Now I think that happens more informally."

Source: http://www.washtimes.com/business/20060417-115220-9657r.htm

[endarkenment]

1. Get yer wedge issue meme catapulting right here!

You just can't leave it alone, can you?

[Dr. Jones]

3. Come again?

:shrug:

This is just to discuss the fact that ad campaigns in Mexico, Fox/Bush, and U.S. companies encourage illegals to cross our borders for their precious slave labor.

Just sayin' that if I were an impoverished Mexican, I'd probably accept the offer too. Just angry at the greedy American companies AND asshole Bush for promoting this so heavily and systematically! And basically using illegals for slave labor.

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[Supersedeas]

4. cheap cheap cheap labor...and no tiresome benefits to worry about

[Norquist Nemesis]

5. All you have to do is follow the money. It's in employers' hands. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Another great post for amnesty.

If the immigrants come here and are given amnesty, they can be easily organized by the unions thus breaking the stranglehold of the businesses that hire them for cheap labor.

[Dr. Jones]

7. Question is, would the companies allow that.

They sure have been successful busting unions thus far - I just kind of doubt the success rate of this new class of citizens trying to form unions. I wager to bet American companies would, as usual, simply fire the workers and find replacements.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

It's a helluva lot easier to bust unions with unorganized labor.

The immigrants were the backbone of the labor movement in the early days. They were as reviled and threatened as much as the "illegal" immigrants are today. With the same fear engendered by the bosses that "they" were taking the jobs from Americans.

Of course, the business class will try to bust the unions and hire cheaper labor. They've been doing that since the inception of capitalism.

[countryjake]

13. Not if the workers have a contract...

United Farm Workers of America
Announcing UFW Contract with Global Horizons
April 11, 2006
http://www.ufw.org/_page.php?menu=organizing&inc=keycampaign/globalhorizons/GH_ASRstatement.htm

~snip~

Today’s announcement of the first national contract protecting agricultural guest workers offers the only genuine solution to the dilemma of worker abuse and lax enforcement of legal protections: unionization.



It's really the only reasonable answer!

[MountainLaurel]

8. Is this anything new?

Going back at least 100 years ago, it was standard practice for mining companies, logging outfits, mills, etc., to send employee recruiters to Europe with signs saying how desperately they needed workers (no doubt, since human laborers were worth less to the companies than their animal labor such as mules). Meanwhile, workers were encouraged to write home to talk their family members who might work into coming to the U.S.

[Dr. Jones]

9. It may not be "new,"

but the difference today is the lies we are fed on this issue. Now I'm NOT blaming the illegals, but just saying...Americans WILL do and Do do the jobs that illegals are coming here to do...it's just a market thing. Illegals are willing to do the jobs for far cheaper, thus pushing out American middle-class workers from their lifetime careers.

Bush pissed off a WHOLE LOT of American middle-class citizens by first claiming these are the jobs Americans don't WANT to do - recently he switched it to jobs Americans WON'T do. But carpentry, painting, woodworking, metalworking, factory work, truck driving, agriculture, service jobs - ALL are jobs Americans WILL do and DO do on a daily basis. All this crap about jobs Americans will not do is a Bush/Fox plan to continue the flow of cheap labor and to further integrate the U.S., Canada, and Mexico into one borderless trading bloc (Free Trade Area of the Americas or FTAA).

[caledesi]

10. Not only that, Randi Rhodes was saying that Vicente Fox

encourages his people to find better lives. 40% unemployment in Mexico. Excuse me, but why doesn't * talk to his good friend Vicente and tell him to take care of his people.

[Dr. Jones]

14. Because it isn't in Bush's interest.

Bush is not our president, he's simply the CEO of all America's companies. Therefore it makes perfect sense that Bush simply wants to continue the flow of cheap labor into the U.S. for the sake of greedy companies. If he told Fox to shape up his country, there would be far less of a cheap labor pool for American companies.

It's the same 'ol sad story of greed and arrogance. Keep the people in Mexico impoverished in order to maintain the cheap labor pool. Fox in turn gets mucho $$$ from illegal workers sending money back to Mexico, and is seen as a hero by some for encouraging them to cross the U.S. border for a better life.

Look up FTAA - I think you'd be surprised at what Bush and Fox are planning for this continent.

[caledesi]

18. Yup. Outsource the good jobs. Insource the cheap jobs and

the middle class vanishes. I hate these thugs!

[MissB]

11. A Republican candidate for governor in our state

has stated that he does not want to punish the employers for hiring "illegals".

[Dr. Jones]

15. What an asshole!

Leave it to the repugs to be for the companies, not the people - without fail. Assholes all.

[Maestro]

12. Which just further emphasizes the fact

that the people shouldn't be scapegoated but the real criminals, the ones going out of their way to hire undocumented workers, should be punished.

[Saphire]

16. I've said it before,the govt. does NOT want to stop illegal immigration.

[Dr. Jones]

17. Absolutely!

It is not in their interest. Bush would not have it any other way, neither would these asshole companies who exploit these low-paid workers for their own sick gain.

[sandnsea]

19. They want to create a revolving door

Bush and most Republicans don't want to have ANY legalization or ANY improvement in legal immigration.

What they DO want, in a big way, is the guest worker program that has as many people as possible coming in, and then kicking them back out as soon as they start to gain skills, learn the language, and gain confidence in their rights.

The guest worker without the legalization is the worst thing possible, and I'm afraid it's what we're going to end up with because people get so mixed up and emotional about "amnesty". Nobody is suggesting amnesty.