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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:27 PM
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Duke is an "extremely liberal" college??
Caught a brief snippet of "anal-cysted, chickenhawk, drug addled pole-smoking" Limpballs show on the way to get some lunch. He was on and on about how those poor boys are being railroaded, and that it's the feminization of America that is to blame. Saying we've been so feminized by the femi-nazis that all you have to do is cry rape, because the feminazi's have been brainwashing women for years that all men are rapist, etc, etc, etc, ad-nauseum.

Then he said something that completely floored me. He said look at how quickly Duke University has thrown these kids under the bus, because Duke is an "extremely liberal" college.

Now, I'm not an expert, but the word I get is that Duke is more of a conservative bastion where the wealthy and connected attend school, and the North Carolina is more of a working class school.

It must be great for Rush, to get wealthy and powerful off of the stupidity of your listeners.

Anyway, don't want to start an in-state battle between the Duke and UNC folks, but is Duke an "extremely liberal" school??
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:31 PM
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1. I listened for three minutes today and discovered
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 02:32 PM by BOSSHOG
that there are thousands of retired generals and admirals that support rumsfeld? Proof? Explanation? An interview with one of them? Citing an independent corraborative document? None of the above. He has all he needs; the ears of the insane conservatives who are fucking this country daily.

I wonder if rush will scream rape when he's in prison.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:34 PM
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4. Well, it's obvious all those 'thousands' of generals support Rumsfeld
... because they haven't (yet) committed seppuku. :silly: After all, that's how Tojo knew, right?
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:32 PM
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2. Neither Duke nor UNC is 'extremely liberal'
I am sure the analcyst would claim every school with a women's studies program is "extremely liberal."

The characterization of Duke as a ritzy 4-year hideout for the extremely wealthy and well-connected is total bullshit. It's a fine private university, and UNC is a fine public university.

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:46 PM
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10. I would say they're more liberal than the area, though. eom
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:22 PM
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23. No they're not
They are entirely keeping with the area.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:48 PM
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11. Well, you gotta admit that UNC is a bastion of liberal thought
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 02:50 PM by NCevilDUer
when compared to most the rest of the state.

In comparison, it leaves Duke in the dust. The very expensive dust.

ON EDIT - It is, however, probably more liberal than NCSU, just by osmosis.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:56 PM
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13. I don't see it.
I've worked for both Universities, and found the campus cultures to be almost identical. Fringe populations of spoiled richie rich types included.

As for the price of an education from either institution, it's outrageous. But to Duke's credit, they find a way to bring in students who deserve to be there, regardless of ability to pay.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:16 PM
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17. OK, I'll buy that.
I guess it's just the impression I get, from a distance. I live in Raleigh, about 4 blocks from NCSU, but don't get up to Durhan/Chapel Hill very often.
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:33 PM
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3. It has its share of liberal and conservative students
just like any other school. I found it just as liberal as UNC-Chapel Hill and much less conservative than NC State.

Duke has (or had in the near past) a fairly liberal divinity department, a very active GBLT studies department (if I recall correctly, all undergrads have to take some course that exposes them to GBLT issues), but the law school is somewhat conservative.

It has a long list of alumni on either side of the spectrum.
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jrw14125 Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:37 PM
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6. to these idiots any educational institution is "librul"
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:40 PM
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8. Getting an education is part of the evil liberal agenda
Womens are better off stupid ceptin for cooking school.
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jrw14125 Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 06:32 PM
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29. And the womens-folk are allowed to recite poetry for the Prophet...
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:40 PM
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7. Live in Durham, have worked at Duke
Duke is pretty much neutral in the politics category. You can find both professors and students with every bent of political belief there.

Rush is talking, as usual, out of his ass.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:00 PM
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14. He's still upset because he found out Nixon gradeeated from there
and let the damned EPA be formed under his watch.

Must have been influenced by the commies while he was there, there is NO other explanation.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:20 PM
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20. Nixon also wanted some form of national healthcare too
I believe.

Heh. If he hadn't been paranoid delusional, he might have done a lot.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:51 PM
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25. See? The commies in NC almost got to him
Just like he thought was going to happen...

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:57 PM
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26. When people get incredulous
that there are commie liberals in NC I always say "Where do you think Jesse Helms learned to hate liberals? Right here at home, that's where!" ;-)

RIP, Frank Porter Graham. *Sigh*
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 04:07 PM
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27. Right Wing thinks all universities are liberal
In the South the universities are really the only liberal places you can go to begin with though to make a point.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 04:16 PM
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28. That's quite true
Nobody is allowed to learn to think for themselves in conservoworld.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:45 PM
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9. Not true
I know a woman that went to Duke she is now a Doctor and I heard a many of her stories about 'the good old boys club' they made it extra hard on her so I say, ummph! liberal? I don't think so! Rush is an idiot that pulls talking points out of his butt!
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 02:51 PM
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12. Richard Nixon is an alumnus
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 02:55 PM by chookie
I doubt if he was there for the liberal atmosphere -- probably for the top rated law school.

He started an organization called "The Orthogonians" -- a social club comprised of young men from humble origins who had hot dog and beans parties, in contrast to the privileged elite there (which Nixon always despised).

Libby Dole went there too. Probably not for the drum circles.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:02 PM
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15. And Pete Wilson went to Berkeley
You will find right-wingers at liberal schools and liberals at conservative schools.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:19 PM
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18. Nixon went to Whittier College, California & Duke Law...nt
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:11 PM
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16. Yeah right, ultra liberal... founded by a tobacco industry giant
who also served in the Confederate Navy, you can't get more liberal than that. :sarcasm:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:19 PM
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19. Well, you're not exactly being fair to the Dukes here
While it is true that they were tobacco farmers made REALLY GOOD, they also were great philathropists and did not want to see this area go without decent health care. In his will, Washington Duke gave a gift of $20 million to Trinity college. It moved to Durham and became Duke University, with the medical school getting top placement.



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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:21 PM
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22. So? Brown University was financed by the slavery business...
We're talking the USA here. Lots of glass houses.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:21 PM
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21. Its Literature Program and English Dept., at least,
have long had a history of liberalism. I also know the director of the Women's Stidoes Program--which has also been historically excellent and progressive. In fact, Duke was one of the most important schools in the queer theory revolution in the 90s.

I can't speak about the entire university, however.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:23 PM
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24. It may be liberal considering where it's sitting...
...smack in the middle of the conservative South. But 'extremely liberal'? Hell no.

Do you believe anything Limpballs says? Who is surprised he'd stick up for those boys - no matter WHAT they did? Who is surprised he'd blame 'feminazis' for this? He must have been an abused child. He has issues.
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