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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:41 PM
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I'm missing an ingredient to the Leaky Cauldron Remedy for the bird flu.
Leaky Caulderon Remedy for the Bird Flu:

A squeeze of oil of oregano
a smash of olive leaf extract
two plump elderberries
a snort of sambucol
and virgin coconut oil.

This is only half joking. All the ingredients ARE turning up as remedies or treatments for the bird flu. But I know I'm missing one ingredient. It involved fish oil. Can someone remember what the tablets were called?

(Life in the 21st century doesn't seem much different than what it must have been like in the dark ages.)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:42 PM
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1. Chinese Star Anise extract?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:50 PM
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19. I love Anise. I had no idea that there was a Chinese version.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:08 AM
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21. Chinese Star Anise is the primary source of shikimic acid...
...the basic ingredient in Tamiflu. This thread from the other day, names another source of shikimic acid, as well.

Also, I think that kimchi needs to be studied, as a remedy for H5N1 infection. There are a lot of kimchi recipes, and I'm not sure which one would be the best. But, looking around my town, I see that it would be very difficult to find any kimchi, at all. According to this article, the therapeutic component of kimchi has been isolated. I'm guessing that we'll see it in capsule form before too long.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:28 AM
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24. Kimchi. Love the name.
I think I'll name my next dog, Kimchi.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:44 PM
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2. Christ,go to the cooking and baking forum.....
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 08:45 PM by catnhatnh
....this sounds like the start of every recipe Husb2sparkly has ever posted....

on edit: If you add garlic...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:46 PM
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4. LOL!
:rofl:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:45 PM
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3. gizzard of a newt?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:47 PM
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5. Oh, that's too obvious.
It had to do with fish.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:50 PM
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6. codliver oil?
vitamin fIsh oil capsules?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:57 PM
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9. They're smelly, whatever they are.
But someone suggested a brand that wasn't quite as smelly.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:54 PM
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8. Catfish.
Birds hate cats.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:58 PM
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10. Oh, then I guess they'll get the last laugh when the cats eat them
and get the bird flu.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:54 PM
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7. emulsified something?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:58 PM
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13. Oh, yeah. Something like that.
?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:35 AM
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25. I think the missing ingreedient is "bullshit."
Lots and lots of bullshit.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:58 PM
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11. Interesting stuff......
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/003115.html

Randall and interested readers should please have a look at http://www.cholecalciferol-council.com and especially the newsletter archived at http://www.cholecalciferol-council.com/pascal.pdf for interesting discussion of a possible role for vitamin D3 in control of the cytokine storm. If I understand correctly, there's some evidence, by no means conclusive, that circulating 25-OH-vitamin-D3 (calcidiol) is converted by pulmonary alveolar macrophages to 1{alpha},25-OH(2)-vitamin-D3 (calcitriol) and that in this context calcitriol serves as a paracrine hormone that reduces the inflammatory activity of these macrophages. On these hypotheses, macrophages' sensitivity to paracrine calcitriol may restrain them from producing the "cytokine storm." Thus, proper immune response to an influenzal infection may require vitamin-D3 sufficiency so that there will be enough circulating calcidiol to allow its uptake and conversion to calcitriol by macrophages at the infection site. John Cannell, M.D., author of the newsletter and of the website, suggests targeting 50 ng/ml as a healthy level of circulating 25-OH-vitamin-D3 (calcidiol). He recommends moderate exposure to ultraviolet B from sunlight or sunlamps, or consumption of vitamin D3 in food or supplements sufficient to raise circulating calcidiol to the target.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 08:58 PM
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12. Probably sauerkraut juice
Lots of articles about that some time back - primarily kimchi (sp?) - Korean sauerkraut - but Frank's brand is made here in wisconsin and they were cashing in for a while as people stockpiled.

Yum - should go well with the other stuff.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:00 PM
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14. Kimchi. A square of Kimchi, crumbled.
Sounds good.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:03 PM
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15. Someone told me to eat sauerkraut
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 09:37 PM by Emit
or a version of it called kimchi :

Kimchi is made up of things like garlic, Chinese cabbage, carrots and fish sauce. Korean researchers fed kimchi to 13 chickens infected with avian flu, and within a week 11 of them started recovering.

The key may be a good type of bacteria, also found in sauerkraut.


Curiously, it does have fish sauce in it.

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:7Hdqr3RilqMJ:kutv.com/watercooler/local_story_307171351.html+bird+flu+sour+kraut&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:34 PM
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18. Kimchi Would Kill ANYTHING
That stuff is NASTY!
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:13 PM
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16. do DHA and EPA ring a bell?
Docosohexaenoic acid and eicosopentaenoic acid. :shrug:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:33 PM
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17. Too technical. It was something as simple as Nepal tablets.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:36 AM
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22. Nordic Naturals?
Nordic, Nepal... they're both far away. ???

http://www.vitacost.com/NordicNaturalsCompleteOmega

They don't taste nasty like most fish oil supplements do.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:27 AM
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23. LOL! You're beginning to think like me.
You may have stumbled onto it. Hey, I found vitacost.com last night too! Great place for my neo-pagan herbal remedies that seem to be curing everything that the multi-billion dollar Pharmas cannot.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:21 PM
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20. But I am convinced it is cod liver oil. I just can't remember the brand.
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