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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:31 PM
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Is "decider" a word?
I couldn't seem to find it in the dictionary. Help me out here.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:32 PM
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1. Apparently:
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:33 PM
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He be an Ivee League graduat! It must be! n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:33 PM
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2. Not unless Herr Blivet makes it so, or Herr Rove. nt
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:33 PM
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3. its a noun, it means the one who does the deciding. so says bush.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:34 PM
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4. Sure... it's a word...
it means one who decides. "Decision-maker" might have been a better choice of words, though.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:51 PM
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13. That's the point; decision maker would not have raised eyebrows,
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 09:51 PM by babylonsister
but his 'way with words' sucks yet again and will wind up in his 'other' library.

Edit to add: welcome to DU!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:34 PM
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5. Yup. sure is.
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 09:34 PM by mcscajun
decide
Main Entry: de·cide

Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): de·cid·ed; de·cid·ing

transitive senses
1 a : to arrive at a solution that ends uncertainty or dispute about <decide what to do> b : to select as a course of action -- used with an infinitive <decided to go>
2 : to bring to a definitive end <one blow decided the fight>
3 : to induce to come to a choice <her pleas decided him to help>

intransitive senses : to make a choice or judgment
- de·cid·abil·i·ty /di-"sI-d&-'bi-l&-tE/ noun
- de·cid·able /di-'sI-d&-b&l/ adjective
- de·cid·er noun

http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=decider

OTOH...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=956199&mesg_id=961095
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:35 PM
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6. not in the sense that Bush meant....it never refers to a person
who decides (what most of us call a "decision maker"). It refers to the final game in a series: the 7th game of the World Series is the "decider"
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Colonel Bat Guano Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:37 PM
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8. Tomorrow's papers...
...will they clean up his language for him in the quotes? ' "I am the one who decides things relating to my Cabinet", said the President...'
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:43 PM
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11. here's what i wrote in an earlier post: "ABC presents Decision 2008...
Who Should be The Decider?"

in order to avoid embarrassing Bush, the press will act as if "decider," in the way Bush meant it, is a real word (and not just "something that settles the outcome of a contest or argument, especially, in sports, a final scoring play"). Moreover, they will routinely start using it in lieu of "president," so that a few decades from now the office will be known as "Decider of the United States of America."
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:35 PM
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7. Bushism for Dictator
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 09:36 PM by theHandpuppet
Dictator, Despot, Decider... they all start with "D" so I'm sure that's good enough for Dubya.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:39 PM
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9. decider, uniter, divider
He sure likes those short 3 syllable words. I have never heard or read the word "decider" until today.

It sounds like a word a T Ball coach would use.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:42 PM
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10. My partner and I had a discussion....dammit she looked it up
and it is a word....but come on he totally misused the word right....am I crazy?:puke:
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:45 PM
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12. official definition (it's a thing, not a person): "something that...
brings definite result: something that settles the outcome of a contest or argument, especially, in sports, a final scoring play or a game played to determine the ultimate winner."
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:57 PM
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15. Ha. It would be even scarier if he meant it that way.
:o
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:18 PM
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22. ha...ha...ha..I am kind of vindicated....
sigh...I still can't believe he even used the word....
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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:52 PM
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14. Good god,
he's an idiot. And the press, on both sides, has to know that. How can they stand themselves, acting as if every word he utters is historical and serious? Un-freaking-believable.

:puke:
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:57 PM
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16. It's a word, but it sounds horrible. And coming from Bush, all
grammar sounds incorrect regardless.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 09:59 PM
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17. How dare you question "our" "pResident"??? You must hate 'Murka.
Anything Bush says is right and true because he is Bush and we are at war.
I mean. Come on. Makes perfect sense. Right??:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:00 PM
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18. Yes. Its Esperanto for Chickenhawk. nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:01 PM
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19. bush is a sick ,sick
Edited on Tue Apr-18-06 10:02 PM by alyce douglas
bastard. he loves to butcher the english language, among other things.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:09 PM
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20.  Dubya's brain,
The decision decider. deciding things is hard. i hate deciding things. it involves thought and stuff. so why not let machines decide things for us? ...
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:16 PM
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21. If the president says it, it's a word?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:21 PM
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23. It is a word but the alarming psychological observation is why
He chooses to make some many verbs into nouns

uniter, decider, delegator those are three I can list right now but I know i've heard many more.

????

I know that this means something deep down

and am trying to find the psychological implications of this.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:22 PM
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24. It is for STUPIDER folk.
Sick dictators and the drug-addled, as well.

DRUNKEN
COKE WHORE
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:33 PM
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25. Does A Monkey Shit In The White House ???
:silly:
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RedG1 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:36 PM
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26. he's back on the sauce...
he drinkee de cider
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:39 PM
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27. It's been used by competent writers,
or often enough. In English, that makes it a word. Don't know that it's been very much used in recent years, and I'm surprised the lexicographers didn't include more recent American sports usage.

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OED, 2nd ed:

One who or that which decides (a controversy, question, etc.).

1592 W. WYRLEY Armorie 23 The Scriptures of God, the decider of all controuersies. 1764 FOOTE Patron I. Wks. 1799 I. 329 The paragon of poets, decider on merit, chief justice of taste. 1862 WILBERFORCE Let. in Life III. 106 The..danger of having..the Irish Bishops made the actual deciders of our doctrine.

b. spec. in Racing. A final race or heat which decides the contest; esp. an extra one run for that purpose, e.g. after a dead heat.

1883 Standard 18 June 2/4 He..disposed of Egerie in the decider. 1887 Daily News 8 June 6/5 This pair ran a dead heat last year..and in the decider Button Park proved..the better.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 10:43 PM
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28. Yes. DECIDER is a synonym for DETOX. (Verb.)
USAGE EXAMPLE: After drinking lots and lots of hard cider, the Chimp took a day off to decider before going back to the bottle.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:28 PM
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29. Some Petty, Unimaginative Oligarchs in a Doctor Who Episode…
…were called "Deciders".

Had a perfectly good spaceship in perfect repair, but couldn't figure out how to take off in the thing…
They followed the sacred texts with great precision. These texts were, in fact, the maintenance manuals
for the starliner, and they kept the ship perfectly maintained -- for something like 4000 generations.
The instructions for taking off were missing unfortunately, and as they utterly lacked imagination,
they went nowhere (until the Doctor showed up, of course).

They also deceived the people into believing they were descendents of those who built the starliner,
whereas they were actually indigenous to the planet they were on.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:30 PM
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30. It is now.
The King can make up new words and shit.

He can also start wars without Congress approval ..apparently.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:30 PM
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31. NO
Last week he said 'preclude'. I don't think that's a word either.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:37 PM
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32. Yes , it's a word, but we know he's a jerk:
tr.v. pre·clud·ed, pre·clud·ing, pre·cludes

1. To make impossible, as by action taken in advance; prevent. See Synonyms at prevent.
2. To exclude or prevent (someone) from a given condition or activity: Modesty precludes me from accepting the honor.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:41 PM
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33. It belongs in the Dipshit's Dictionary
along with 'decider'.

What a friggin idiot.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 11:57 PM
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34. Delightful to see you also, proud2Blib! nt
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