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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:43 AM
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don't eat that GM food

http://www.guardian.co.uk/eu/story/0,,1756138,00.html

EU commission 'admitted GM food uncertainty'

The European commission has been approving genetically modified crops for human consumption while secretly warning about their impact on health and the environment, a report published today reveals.

Papers obtained by two environmental groups under freedom of information laws show the commission pushed through the approval of seven GM foods.

They were approved despite admissions that there were "large areas of uncertainty" and "some issues have not yet been studied at all".
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this will be ignored by the media,on directions of the food barons, as they like their obscene profits more then life itself.

modified corn is in every kind of food possible. corn syrup is the drug of choice of the food barons. keeps the eating public hooked.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:44 AM
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1. Please edit to indicate GM = 'genetically modified'
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:46 AM
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3. why
nt
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:48 AM
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5. It's not at all obvious looking at the headline and blurb, unless you are
already "into" this issue, many people will have the reaction, "what, General Motors makes food now?"

Abbreviation should generally be spelled out in the first usage, as it is in your article, but the reader shouldn't have to click through to see what your article is even about.

My opinion.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:36 PM
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10. GM making food?
Now THAT would be a threat to our health and safety. ::shudder:: GM Pinto beans.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:29 PM
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24. Every time I look at the title, I think
"I don't trust them to build me a car either." :D
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:36 PM
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12. Ummmm.....
The initials 'GM' when in conjunction with food is quite common when reported in the press. I had no confusion with what it meant.
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:45 AM
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2. It's now being shoved down their throats....
it's been shoved down our throats for years WITHOUT our consent.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:38 PM
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13. And yet...
...there isn't a single known instance anywhere in the world of a single person falling ill because of GM foods. Not that this negates the extremely foul intellectual property issues associated with GM farming.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:49 PM
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18. i-sis.org.uk would disagree with you on that.

GM Ban Long Overdue
Dozens Ill & Five Deaths in the Philippines
Dr. Mae-Wan Ho

A fully referenced version of this article is posted on ISIS members' website.

Unexplained sicknesses and deaths

SNIP

As part of an investigation to determine what made the villagers ill, one of the farmers was “volunteered” to venture inside the Bt maize field in the presence of more than 10 witnesses, as he explained to me via an interpreter. “Within 5 minutes, I could not breathe and felt something extraordinary on my face,” he recalled. The others could see that his face had swollen up and remarked that it was “very dangerous”.

In fact, the farmer is ill to this day. Every now and again, he feels weak in his limbs and numb in his hands and feet. He held up the back of his right hand to show me the index finger. A yellowish-brown discoloration and thickening of the fingernail had developed since he was exposed to the GM pollen.

In October 2003, blood samples were taken from the affected villagers who still had symptoms, which were then frozen and analysed. Antibodies to the Bt toxin Cry1Ab expressed in the GM maize were found in all the blood samples taken from the 38 individuals.

SNIP

Commenting on some of the evidence presented here, Dr. Michael Antoniou, Reader in Medical and Molecular Genetics at King's College London, had this to say <18>: “ If the kind of detrimental effects seen in animals fed GM food were observed in a clinical setting, the use of the product would have been halted and further research instigated to determine the cause and find possible solutions. However, what we find repeatedly in the case of GM food is that both governments and industry plough on ahead with the development, endorsement and marketing GM foods despite the warnings of potential ill health from animal feeding studies, as if nothing has happened. This is to the point where governments and industry even seem to ignore the results of their own research! There is clearly a need more than ever before for independent research into the potential ill effects of GM food including most importantly extensive animal and human feeding trials.”




See also:

More Illnesses Linked to Bt Crops

Further evidence has emerged on the link between common transgenic proteins and serious allergic reactions while regulators turn a deaf ear and approve yet more planting. Dr. Mae-Wan Ho

A fully referenced version of this articles is posted on ISIS members’ website.

The same transgenic proteins implicated in two different GM crops

We recently reported illnesses and deaths among villagers of south Mindanao in the Philippines that are suspected of being linked to the genetically modified ‘Bt’ maize with an insecticidal protein from the soil bacterium Bacillus thuringiensis <1> (“GM ban long overdue, five deaths and dozens ill in the Philippines”, SiS 29).

Since then, similar illnesses are reported to have occurred in Madhya Pradesh, central India, as a result of exposure to ‘Bt’ cotton genetically modified with the same or similar insecticidal protein(s).

SNIP

The team found allergy symptoms in people in direct contact with Bt cotton on their hands, feet, face, in their eyes and nose, with some becoming “very severely ill.”

The skin was the most common site of allergy: itching, redness, eruptions and swelling. Typically, after the first 4-5 hours of exposure, most people complained of itching on the face and the hand. Soon, the itching increased and by the time they finish the day’s work, they had redness on the hands and face and swelling of the face. After continued exposure of one to two days, small white eruptions would appear, most often on the face. The symptoms began to subside after varying periods from four to five days up to five to six months, but black discolouration would show on the skin.

The people affected did not have previous history of allergies even though they were involved in picking cotton earlier.

More Illnesses Linked to Bt Crops
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 03:52 PM
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21. Keep kidding yourself..
don't open your mind to the possibility that messing with Mother Nature will come back to bite you in the ass.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:46 AM
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4. If you want to ensure clean food for your family
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 11:47 AM by SpiralHawk
look into CSA -- Community Supported Agriculture.

It's as American as apple pie -- and it is a pracitical step that works: CSA saves money, enhances the local environment, gives you and your family clean food, and provides dignified work in nature for local people.

http://www.chiron-communications.com/farms.html
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:50 AM
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6. good luck avoiding it
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 11:53 AM
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7. We're alive because of it.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:04 PM
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8. An old GM food cartoon
I didn't have my Bush caricature down back then, but hey, it's a freebie...



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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:34 PM
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9. We don't even know which foods are modified
Corn syrup, and soybean and rape oil, are some of the major ingredients in our processed foods, because they are cheap to grow. They are also the targets of extensive genetic manipulation. And with both soy and rape oils, there are already significant questions of health impacts being studied (they contain xenoestrogens, and in the case of rape oil -- often called Canola oil -- there's a toxic acid involved).

The problems with GMs do not seem to be very great individually, but when most of our diet becomes laden with them, what kind of health effects will we face? If we are wondering why such things as allergies, degenerative diseases, fatigue and pain-causing illnesses, reproductive disorders, obesity, diabetes, and other once-rare problems are now growing toward ubiquity, we could start by looking into modern agricultural and food-processing practices.

I am not given to panic over every concern about food raised by Internet alarmists. But the amount of unstudied high-tech food alteration has increased dramatically since the 1970s. Sickening billions of people just to save a few pennies a bushel is a false economy and a potential crime against humanity and nature.

--p!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:36 PM
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11. Sickening billions of people?
Isn't that internet alarmism?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:39 PM
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14. Billions of people don't make me sick....
But a few sickening ones do pop up occasionally.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:28 PM
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16. Nope
When big agricultural companies introduce illness-producing elements into the food chain, there's a lot of people who will get sick. For instance, ConAgra foodstuffs are probably eaten by 95% of the world's population. Most of the sickness that's caused by GMOs and pollutants consists of these more-"subtle" illnesses, like allergies, fatigue and pain syndromes, but also include cancers and degenerative diseases. Large numbers of people won't keel over within hours of eating foods made with them, but dramatic increases in those "subtle" illnesses do count as "sickening billions of people".

Green Revolution crops have fed well over 4 billion people since the late 1950s; they are being supplanted by so-called "Terminator Crops" which don't produce viable seeds. This is done to prevent seed preservation and force poor farmers to buy more seeds for the next crop. Most of these "engineered" seeds are GMOs. They carry very high likelihoods of causing such illnesses. Again, the number of people to be affected will be in the billions.

Alarmism is the stuff like "Aspartame will cause epilepsy and brain tumors with just one swig!" Aspartame is known to have a large number of adverse effects, but most people do not experience them. I would still call Monsanto out on marketing a product that is far worse than would ordinarily be allowed to be sold. But that's what happens when the CEO is Don Rumsfeld.

There is also the separate issue of pollution, which has become ubiquitous, and to which chemical pest control contributes. We need not panic over eating food, but plenty of concern and activism are warranted.

--p!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 03:48 PM
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20. How do you tell the difference between...
the billions of people getting sick from GMOs and the billions of people getting sick from chemtrails?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 06:14 PM
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22. Epidemiology.
There is a whole sub-discipline in statistics that deals with confounding variables.

As for the chemtrails, you'd have to make a convincing case that they exist as described first.

--p!
Chemtrails, Cirrus clouds, Gaslight ... whaddevah!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:12 PM
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15. I have said it before and I will say it again...
...GM FOODS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM!!! COMPANIES ABUSING THE TECHNOLOGY ARE THE PROBLEM!!! The ludditism makes me sick. Everything has a risk. If it was up to the anti-GMO and anti-nuclear people we would still be in the the stone age because they would call agriculture and metalurgy too risky. :eyes:
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:36 PM
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17. that's silly -- we would like nuclear if the waste could be made non

lethal and the plants safe from meltdown or destruction.

or how to keep nuclear bombs out of the hands of criminals like the bushmilhousegang.

and the food barons won't let anyone know actually what they have done to plant DNA. that makes them suspect. making suicide seeds is criminal.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 03:46 PM
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19. Then, as I said, go after the corporations, NOT the technolgy.
Have good regulation mesures in place in order to make sure genetic engineering is being dome for the benefit of society as a whole, don't ban it outright or make regulations that are so draconian they are a defacto ban. The technology itself has the potential to do so much good, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, thats all I'm saying.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:27 PM
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23. The worst part is our craven, sell-out politicians are happy to assist
the takeover of our food supply by the fascistic agro-conglomerates.

The following is a snip from an article that went up today at www.fromthewilderness.com . (You have to be a FTW subscriber to read the whole thing).


BIODIVERSITY, GMO, AND THE FUTURE

by
Jamey Hecht, Ph.D.

SNIP

One of the most important forces for improvement on the food security front is an organization founded by Indian physicist Vandana Shiva, called Navdanya or “Nine Seeds.” The Navdanya Movement protects indigenous peoples from biopiracy, the absurd-yet-legal drawing-up of patents on naturally occurring organisms. Biopiracy may be a crime against humanity, but it’s not illegal because it can only be perpetrated by powerful corporate interests, among which Monsanto is only the largest. Here’s a striking remark from “For Rice is now Oryza Syngenta!” by Devinder Sharma:

The tussle over the monopoly control of rice extends to its 12 chromosomes. These chromosomes contain 430 million base pairs of DNA, and are expected to have about 50,000 genes. Syngenta, in collaboration with Myriad Genetics Inc. of USA, has beaten Monsanto in the game by sequencing more than 99.5 per cent of the rice genome. Syngenta has already made it clear that it will restrict access to the genomic map and expects proprietary control over any research carried out with the information.

But it isn’t only the vampires of the biological patent game who threaten global food security. Even without the chicanery of patenting and the brave new world of genetically modified frankenfood, there is the sheer folly of betting everything on a minimal range of crop variety. Daniel Nierenberg and Brian Halweil explain in the 2005 Worldwatch State of the World Annual:

Since the beginning of the last century, 75% of the genetic diversity of agricultural crops has been lost. In China, 10,000 varieties of wheat were under cultivation in 1949; by the 1970s only 1,000 were still in production. Just 20%—one fifth—of the maize varieties reported in Mexico in 1930 are known today. And farmers in the Philippines once cultivated thousands of rice varieties, but by the 1980s just two varieties took up 98% of the growing area.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/members/042006_biodiversity_gmo.shtml

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:27 PM
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25. kick n/t
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:54 PM
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26. kick
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