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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:04 PM
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Senator Lieberman, I'd like you to meet my teenage son, Christopher.
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 08:56 PM by liberalhistorian
Dear Senator Lieberman:

I have long been dismayed at your increasingly rightward tilt in recent years, and was, frankly, not all that enthusiastic when Al Gore chose you as his running mate in 2000 (a huge mistake, as it turned out, and a mistake that likely cost us plenty of votes). But I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and give you a fair chance.

When you stabbed Gore, your own running mate and fellow Democrat, in the back by urging that he concede the Florida vote when there was more than enough evidence that it had been seriously tampered with, and urging that the recount be stopped, you began to seriously damage your credibility and worthiness as a Democrat.

When you decided it was your prerogative to usurp the individual judgment of parents to become America's "morality nanny" by attempting to pass laws restricting or banning certain forms of video games and music, using YOUR "morality" standards, and by constantly scolding those who didn't live up to your perfect standards of morality, I began to see what you were truly about.

When you became the enthusiastic cheerleader for the misguided Iraq war, despite all evidence showing that the pretext for invading was nothing but a huge, fabricated, deliberate lie designed to terrify America into submissive support of the invasion, and despite the fact that this great country has never, even under the most war-mongering presidents, invaded a country without pretext to do so, and when you continued to plant your mouth firmly on Bush's ass and appeared to almost get your jollies off on what was happening in Iraq, continuing to insist that things were just peachy-keen in Iraq despite all evidence to the contrary, I became completely disillusioned as to your true political ambitions and beliefs.

When you actually had the nerve to say that "It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to realize that he will be the commander-in-chief for three more critical years, and that in times of war we undermine presidential credibility at our own peril", thus reinforcing the ridiculously un-American "if you criticize Bush, you're supporting the terrorists" meme, meaning that anyone disagreeing with the president is unpatriotic and anti-American, despite the fact that you only had to say that you "respectfully" disagreed with Democrats on this issue, and despite the fact that it is not his critics, but Bush and company who have completely and totally lost all credibility with their deliberate lies fabricated in order to get us into Iraq, I lost what little remaining respect I had for you entirely.

But now you've really and truly done it. Now you've really gone totally over the edge and beyond all boundaries. Today, you said you would support a military air strike on Iran if diplomatic efforts failed (and without giving any criteria as to what, exactly, would constitute "diplomatic efforts" under the present mis-administration. You appeared to be completely taken in by the fear-mongering propaganda that Iran was very close to developing a nuclear bomb, when it should be obvious to anyone with more than two brain cells and a second-grade education that such propaganda was nothing more than the same manipulative fearmongering used to wrongfully get us into Iraq, when you said it would be necessary to stop Iran's development of nuclear weapons, with complete disregard for the fact that it will be years before Iran will have the capability to develop even one nuclear bomb.

You said that a strike would ensure that such rapid development would be stopped and, by the time they were able to catch up, there would be a different government, a "regime change" if you will, in Iran that we wouldn't have to worry about.

You, as a Democrat, should have been screaming to the sky against even the consideration of this crazy, suicidal idea. Yet you are, to your everlasting shame, the first Democrat to not only support it, but encourage it.

Your ignorance in regards to not recognizing the complete and total craziness of such a strike, and your complete disregard and indifference to the horrendous damage it would cause, both to Iran and the Iranian people and to what little remains of our country's credibility, integrity and international standing and reputation, is nothing short of breathtaking. I realize you reside in Alice in Wonderland-world, but the rest of us must live in reality. I simply cannot believe that even you could even consider such a horrendous, crazy, idea. Tremendous structural and infrastructural damage, terrible loss of life, and the suffering of survivors on an unbelievable scale, yet you appear to have no problem with that.

You have a problem with teenagers playing certain "violent" video games, but you have no problem with REAL blood, gore, violence and suffering in the real world, both in what our soldiers and the Iraqis are enduring in the Iraq war, and in what any sort of strike, let alone nuclear, on Iran would cause. You appear to have no problem at all with this country being at perpetual war.

So, I would like you to meet my son, Christopher. He will be fifteen one week from today. He is my only child and the only child I will ever have. He is incredibly bright with a very high IQ, a funny, charming, caring, compassionate, sensitive, loving, child, well-versed in current events and politics and concerned about what is happening in the world. A child who's a very talented drummer and pianist, who is one of those rare musicians with perfect pitch, able to tell you what key a song is in just by listening to a few bars and able to tell you what note you're playing without looking; he also loves to compose music.

He is in honors science and math and above-average history and social studies and is capable of getting straight-A's in everything when he sets his mind to it. He already has several ideas for inventions, and has often stumped his science teachers with unusually prescient questions and stunned them with his own theories.

He is the light of my life and that of my family. Yet, you would have him be sucked into the maw of perpetual war that you, by your enthusiastic and unqualified support of those who are the architect of such warmongering policies, have helped to create. You would have him be just another number in your statistics of those who've "sacrificed to bring light to the Middle East" (when you really mean those who've been sacrificed on the altar of American imperialistic ambitions).

You would not have him play any video games, or listen to any music you consider "vulgar and violent", yet you would have no problem with him being a part of the "vulgar violence" and blood and guts and gore that is the disaster of our involvement in Iraq and that will be ten times worse should we be crazy enough to strike Iran.

Mr. Lieberman, know this. I will NOT have him be, in any way, a part of that, and I will NOT sacrifice him to yours and your republican friends' imperialistic, political ambitions. It is time for you to admit that you need to formally change parties and become a republican, for that is what you are. I no longer consider you, in any way, to be a Democrat, and neither should any other Democrat. You are a disgrace to our party and to our country.

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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:07 PM
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1. Well put!
Hi to Christopher!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:09 PM
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3. Thanks, I'll be sure
to tell him! Can't believe he'll be fifteen a week from today; man, I'm getting OLD, lol.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:08 PM
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2. ........................
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:12 PM
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4. For The Record, Ma'am
Sen. Lieberman has not been quoted as saying he supports a nuclear attack on Iran. He has been quoted as saying he would support a military strike against Iranian nuclear facilities as a last resort in the event that country seems actually to be pursuing acquisition of nuclear weapons.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:47 PM
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24. Nice try, but sorry, no
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 09:12 PM by liberalhistorian
go. He said today that he would support a military air strike on Iranian military facilities should diplomatic efforts fail. No criteria on what, exactly, he would consider to be "diplomatic efforts." No consideration of what it would do to the Iranian people and environment. No recognition of the fact that Iran is at least ten years away from developing even one nuclear weapon. No recognition that things are a disaster for us in Iraq and that the same manipulative propganda that was used to get us into Iraq is being used to get us into Iran. And no recognition of the incredible stupidity of his statement that such a strike would "destroy their nuclear capabilities to the point that by the time they were able to catch up, they'd have a different government."

And it really doesn't matter. The very idea is nothing short of breathtakingly crazy and suicidal. Iran is not Iraq. If attacked, it would not hesitate to fight back and attack us, with a much stronger, healthier military than Iraq's. And such an attack would inflame ME sentiment against us to an unbelievably dangerous degree, we might as well pour gasoline on a fire. The fact that he doesn't recognize any of this is truly astounding, even for him, not to mention incredibly frightening. Worse, even, than his having his mouth firmly planted on Bush's ass, and having his own head so far up his ass he can't even see anymore.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:52 PM
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28. Here, Ma'am, Is The Body Of The Article In Circulation
Sen. Joseph Lieberman said Tuesday that he would back a U.S. airstrike on Iran's nuclear facilities if diplomatic options fail, becoming the first Democrat to announce his support for such a move.

"I think the only justifiable use of military power would be an attempt to deter the development of their nuclear program if we felt there was no other way to do it," the former vice presidential candidate tells the Jerusalem Post.

Lieberman said he uses the word "deter" because it's doubtful that even an extensive air assault could eliminate all of Iran's nuclear facilities, many of which are buried underground.

The goal of such an attack, he explained, would be to "delay" Iran's nuclear program, hoping that "by the time they catch up back to where they were, there's been a change in the government. That's the limited objective that I would see."

There is no reference whatever to the use of nuclear weapons by the United States.

If you have a source containing such a statement, please share it with us.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #28
41. Why are we finding out what an American Senator's position is
on a major strategic decision from Conrad Black's Jerusalem Post?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. That's a very good question, I'd
wondered about that, myself.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #28
50. The point is that Holy Joe always supports Bush's wars
a war crimes enabler by any standard of decency!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:16 PM
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51. I think a lot of it has to do with
opportunism on his part. Amazing that he has a big problem with teens playing "vulgar, violent" video games or listening to "vulgar, violent" music, but he has no problem with those same kids taking up arms in Iraq and dealing with REAL blood, gore, destruction, and vulgar violence. I'll never figure that one out.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:26 PM
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52. Holy Joe is a Democratic version of Bill Bennett
and equally sleazy.

Holy Joe had no problem publicly censuring Clinton for his sexual indiscretions, but he is silent on the crimes committed by his idol Bush.

Hypocrite!

I hope Ned Lamont cleans his self-righteous clock in the CT primary!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:31 PM
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58. Senator Lieberman should be replaced!
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #4
25. There is only one problem with your statement, Magistrate
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 09:00 PM by DancingBear
That being that the threshold of what Mr. Lieberman views as being "pursuing acquisition of nuclear weapons" seems to begin and end with the phrase "whatever you say, Mr. President".

Other than that, you quote his words correctly.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:09 PM
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67. Sir, you are splitting a mighty fine hair here, especially in view of
Lieingmans previous transgressions. IMO.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:13 PM
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5. Liberal Historian....
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 08:17 PM by mohinoaklawnillinois
:applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:

One great letter to Joementum. I wish we had a standing ovation smilie...

:yourock:
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PretzelzRule Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:14 PM
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6. Awesome letter
thanks for sharing it with us!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:29 PM
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13. Well, one of them
is already here, judging by an above post. I expected better from DU, especially after the Iraq hype was definitively shown to be nothing more than manipulative propaganda. Some people just never learn, I guess.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:43 PM
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21. If That Reference Is To Me, Ma'am
Do, please, provide me with the quotation in which the Senator expresses support for using nuclear weapons against Iran. In the article being circulated on the matter here recently, no such statement exists. You have pegged a good deal of your piece to that claim.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:56 PM
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29. Hello to you, Magistrate. After reading your post here in this thread,
I went back into my post and adjusted the text to reflect your accurate assertion that Lieberman has not specifically endorsed the nuclear option strike against Iran.

I remain disturbed by his support of the president, both in the weeks leading up to the Iraq bombing and now lately, this new sabre-rattling about Iran, and I have written this night a check to his primary opponent, Mr. Lamont, to be mailed tomorrow.

My anger at Bush's bellicosity (and Lieberman's general endorsement of the presiden'ts military posture in the Middle East) boils over in me sometimes and I type something that needs the clearer eyes of a cooler-browed soul.

You are right and I was wrong. Thank you for the clarification.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:03 PM
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32. My Thanks To You, Ma'am
That clarification was my sole interest in the matter: you wrote an excellent piece that did not benefit from such a misunderstanding. It is always better to accuse people of what they have actually done....

"I say unto you each man shall die of his own sin, and no other's."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:07 PM
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33. I was a blue-blanketed baby (male) and now I'm a blue voter (Dem.)

____
I appreciate your writing, Magistrate. I pay attention to it and am glad you're on our side and not the Republicans'.

Thanks again,

OC
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:20 PM
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45. Had you not read newspaper reports that the Neocons planned
to nuke sites in Iran? Do you think Liebermann hadn't heard it? I can't imagine so. Rather, it strikes me that you are being pedantic about a wholly irrelevant technicality.

Good gracious, our news in the UK was full of it, on the television, too. Not to speak of, I think, Blair's "uncomplimentary" comment on it.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:10 PM
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49. Well, at least Blair is finally showing some
common sense and backbone; I'm still shaking my head in disbelief over his unwavering, enthusiastic support of the disaster in Iraq.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:47 PM
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60. well, answer me this
Do you agree that the consensus is that the only way to destroy Iran's underground nuclear sites is by using a bunker busting nuclear bomb?

Do you agree that he did say he supports us taking those very sites out?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:09 PM
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34. It appears you are technically correct,
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 09:11 PM by liberalhistorian
and I'm editing my post to correct that. My apologies. I probably should have waited until I cooled down a little after reading the article before posting anything. However, I stand by the rest of my post. Even an airstrike would be crazy and suicidal, and for Lieberman to even consider such a thing, especially after the manipulative propagandistic lies that got us into Iraq, is inexcusable and unacceptable.

On edit: Unfortunately, I only had time to edit some parts before the editing time period expired. Hopefully, people will understand what I mean.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:16 PM
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8. Lieberman's a snivelling little snot-nose shitbag
and I don't like him ! :-)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:16 PM
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9. A forceful letter, liberalhistorian.
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 08:35 PM by Old Crusoe
And addressed to a man who needs to be reminded -- as we all do -- that war must be gauged first and foremost in human terms. Any other measure must remain subordinate.

Lieberman's support of the president's military strike options against Iran this last couple of days has been unsurprising but extremely disheartening. You confront him on his hypocrisy and you do it eloquently.

If I ran into Lieberman, I could not put the case any better than you have tonight in this powerful letter.

If I ran into your son, I could not persuade him that his mother was not a wonderful parent.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:27 PM
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12. I must respectfully disagree
when it comes to that. For all that I cannot stand Lieberman, I do not believe that his primary loyalty lies with Israel or that he has "dual agency." I don't think his religion has anything to do with it.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:21 PM
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37. Remember, though, that other
Democrats supported the Iraq war, too, initially, and some continue to do so. Although, not, granted, anywhere near the extent of Lieberman. I still don't think his religion has anything to do with it. I think he's just an opportunistic ass-kisser.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:49 PM
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46. Well I Obviously Don't Get It
I've had two posts deleted here

forget religion

Lieberman is a prick

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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:22 PM
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11. Well written
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:31 PM
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14. You bring tears to my eyes, I have two that has me worried sick
i just want a representative government, something we don't have now.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. I know, it's a scary time to be
the mother of teenagers right now, isn't it, especially boys. I mean it when I say that I will not have him be any part of this, I don't give a royal shit what his freeper father says. Let him send his other son if he wants to and leave mine the hell out of it.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:34 PM
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15. I do hope you sent this to the Democratic Party's official Shrub asskisser
And that this isn't just what you want to say to him. He ranks right up there with John McCain, who I consider to be one of the worst politicians in Washington. They are both sell-outs to the right wing.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:36 PM
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16. If someone would give me an email
address to send it to, I'd be very happy to do so.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:47 PM
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23. I found none but here is a link where you can send him an e-mail
http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/

at the bottom of the page find a box that says "what would you like to do." You can probably go to "comment on an issue."
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:50 PM
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26. OK, thanks,
should be interesting!
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:00 PM
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31. More than interesting...he deserves a verbal slap and yours is great
:yourock:
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #16
57. I hope you get your letter to him
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I tried to e mail Lieberman once and after several weeks got a form reply letter stating that he only responds to constituents!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:00 PM
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63. Gee, what a surprise that is.
As if his decisions and votes and positions didn't impact the rest of us as well, and not just his constituents. And he has no trouble wanting to send the children of those who aren't his "constituents" to Bush and company's wars.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:38 PM
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18. You are the
Awesome parent I wish I had...And Don't let bushco take your son away.
Art music all of it is meanings of the heart, science and the ability to think and create beauty,invent things,make music is the stuff of spirit that bush and his sociopathic ilk will NEVER understand.But they will attempt to control steal and waste it. You are wise to protect your son from Bushcos crazy dead souless future..
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:18 PM
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36. He is such a wonderful, well-rounded
child, talented in both the arts and the sciences, and such a caring child, that the very thought of him being forced to kill or be killed in a senseless war situation is enough to make me physically ill. My heart totally goes out to all the parents who have children in Iraq or Afghanistan right now.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #18
59. My husband and I have already decided that
we do whatever it takes to keep our son from fighting for the neocon empire. He has several years before this is an issue for him personally -- but we will not feed him to the U.S. war machine to go bomb brown people so Republicans can high five each other, and we will not let him be blown to bits in the fight to let U.S. corporations run amuck over the globe.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:41 PM
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20. Senator Lieberman's days are numbered - replaced after November!
deservidly so!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #20
44. That would be nice, indeed, but I'm not
sure just how realistic the chances of that actually happening are. Granted, he has primary challengers, and there are rumblings of discontent with him in CT, but that may not be enough to get him out in November.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:45 PM
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22. Rock on, L'il liberalhistorian
:headbang:

--IMM
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:52 PM
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27. This is a flyer that should be dumped all over Conn. It is very good
and if the people of Conn. read all the things he has done..and if they want a progressive in there this would remind them that he is not a liberal, nor a progressive, nor a Democrat..
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 08:58 PM
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30. Most excellent.
While they may be valid, I don't want to get into the Magistrate's objections. The tenor of your letter was so much more than that. I would be fraught with anxiety if I had teenage kids. Heck, I am anyways. Well done.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:00 PM
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38. LIEberman is a traitor not only to his party but to our country!!! K&R
Hey CT. dump this sellout assh*le!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:02 PM
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39. Dear Senator Lieberman, please resign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we already have one Zell Miller
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:30 PM
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40. Good Post liberalhistorian!
Agreed!
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:25 AM
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42. Shootin' from the hip.
The general thrust of your piece seems to ring true for me.

Speak your mind.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:02 PM
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47. Recommended! This week's Top Ten Conservative Idiot!
Joementum is right up there with Zell Miller for DINO of the decade!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:07 PM
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48. I would definitely agree with that!
I really do think he should be on the Top Ten list because of this. I still find it beyond incredible that even he would even consider supporting such a strike.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:29 PM
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53. I also have a son who is almost fifteen
and I feel exactly the same way as you. Thank you for this.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:34 PM
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54. liberalhistorian, > I applaud you on clearly defining Lieberman
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:44 PM
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55. Sen. Lieberman, meet my son Patrick...
He'll be 18 in a few weeks. Like my friend who posted about her son Chris, Patrick is also the light of my life, the air that I breathe...my first born.

He's a handsome lad with a big, open smile and a heart to match. As a student he's been in the gifted program since he was in the 2nd grade, and will graduate this year with a 3.8 gpa. He can catch any football thrown his way and will be a wide reciever next year for our local college. He just got his first job last week which he goes to right after his last class, and before he goes to football spring practice.

He's a ritious liberal and loves his country.

But Mr. Lieberman, know this. I will NOT have him be, in any way, a part of that, and I will NOT sacrifice him to yours and your republican friends' imperialistic, political ambitions. It is time for you to admit that you need to formally change parties and become a republican, for that is what you are. I no longer consider you, in any way, to be a Democrat, and neither should any other Democrat. You are a disgrace to our party and to our country.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:39 AM
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56. I raise a toast to Patrick, and
let's hope that neither of our sons has to deal with any of this!
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:25 PM
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61. for what it's worth, I'm working on dual citizenship for him (Ireland)
My parents are immigrants. Figure if he has a legit EU/Ire passport he may be able to get out if necessary. Maybe not - but hey...it's worth a shot.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 10:57 PM
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62. Good idea,
I hope something comes of it! Of course, the rules may very well change about dual citizenship and military service in the near future, knowing this crew.
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:35 AM
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64. Great post!
We have four beautiful boys ages 4 to 11 and I'll be damned before I see any one of them come to any harm for nothing more than CORPORATE PROFITS!!!

p.s. I cannot wait to cast my vote against this jackass in CT's Democratic primary. :7
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:28 PM
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65. I am going to tell it like I believe it--
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 12:32 PM by Coastie for Truth
This is where I stand: - I am 65 years young - and I was criminally prosecuted (Court Martialed - charges dismissed) for having an Humphrey Sticker on my book bag and car -- (Article 88 of the UCMJ, 5 USC 7323). I support, contribute to, volunteer time and effort for, and vote for the candidate of the Democratic Party. And I have held elective party and public office.

We did not lose 2000 and 2004 because of chads or Diebold. We lost because of our willingness to gather in a circle, face each other, and commence firing.

I am in GREEN technology - solar energy, electric cars, fuel cells -- and I have been screwed over by the GOP and the polluters from Detroit and Houston.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:49 PM
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66. Hear hear....Joe sucks....
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 02:06 PM
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68. good letter and Sen. Liberman, meet my 22 y.o. daughter who's in an
environmental planning program in college. She will be planning towns and cities for her generation and those to come to HAVE a sustainable future, which war precludes.
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