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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:58 PM
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Is Rape A Criminal Act?
Which should have the punishment of being staked out over an ant hill? With an elephant sitting on you head? After being flayed? I think that would be the correct punishment for the abridgment of a personal liberty that is so supremely intimate.

It is not sex...it is something violent and criminal.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:00 PM
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1. Those are pretty good punishments. They would work.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:05 PM
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2. It is worst than murder
You kill something in the victim, they become a lesser being because of it, they have to live with it and so does all around them.

IT IS WORST THEN MURDER
cause a dead person feel no pain
People get to move on no more constant reminder

IT IS WORST THEN MURDER
cause the sentence for rape too unfair
Victim get life sentence what do rapists get?

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:18 PM
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5. that's just plain stupid.
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 10:19 PM by QuestionAll
given a choice- would you rather be raped or dead?

sheesh.

rape is generally over in a few minutes- death is kinda forever.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:20 PM
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7. Eeeek - "rape is generally over in a few minutes"
Did Tom Cruise tell you that? :wow:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:50 PM
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18. no...i don't have the actual stats-
but common sense kinda dictates that the vast majority of rape victims aren't held for days, or even hours. yes- there are exceptions, but the actual act of rape- doesn't take all that long.

i think one problem, at least in the u.s., is how twisted the purtinical-spawned american psyche is on the subject of sex in the first place. like it's the be-all and end-all of everything...the most magical mystical metaphysical beautiful spiritual thing that could ever ever ever happen between two soulds until the end of time....

there are just plain too many weak people in this country.

yes- rape is an awful and terrible thing...but life goes on, and at least you aren't dead. or quadripelegic. or many other actual life-long maladies and disabilities- all of which are worse than rape, but usually still preferable to death.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:54 PM
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21. Dude, you are one sick person
Your views on sex are downright neanderthal!! :wow:
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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:23 PM
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9. The death of spirit can be much worse than the ending of life.
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 10:25 PM by Montagnard
As a male...I have tired to put myself in the rape victims palce..I could not come close to what they feel and I know it. That is a worst insult than being dead. To lose the free choice of your body is slavery...God bless those women who stand up for freedom and I will back and support them fully. It was not their fault, it was some depravity without forgiveness.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:28 PM
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12. ask those who kill themself after getting rape
I know there is no answer
cause they rather stop living because of the 5 minutes x(

Arguement subjective
Depending on personal strength of person to overcome suituation

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:34 PM
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16. actually
there'd be some instances where, yes, I'd rather be raped then dead. And, speaking as a woman, in some of the most violent rape scenes I've seen on tv or in a movie, I'm always a little relieved if the character being raped is either killed afteward or dies at some point later - just thinking at least she wouldn't have to live with that for the rest of her life.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:53 PM
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19. speaking as a hetero guy-
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 10:54 PM by QuestionAll
i can safely say that i'd rather be anally gang-banged on national tv than dead.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:54 PM
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20. lovely.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:55 PM
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22. .
:eyes:
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:19 PM
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6. No. It isn't "worse than murder"
I survived being raped and I can enjoy beautiful sunrises and chocolate frappes and the laughter of babies and that stupid look of bliss dogs get when they hang their heads out of the window of a moving car.

I can love and be loved, and the music of Beethoven brings a lump to my throat.

If the rapist had murdered me none of that would be true.

One of the best things about the human species is our resilience.

And anyway, living well is the BEST revenge. I may have nightmares sometimes, and trust issues, and I struggle with depression... but I know damn' well I'm a better human being than the pond scum who raped me, and I'm proud of that. I wouldn't be him for ANYTHING.

Just my tuppeny'orth.

cognitively,
Bright
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:24 PM
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11. You are the strong ones
The survivor
If all strong as you, then good
But many not so strong
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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:32 PM
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15. A million apologies
and a trillion smiles...for me it has nothing to do with x and y it has to do with human beings...and how we treat one another...I feel the same for those who suffered in the camps...I feel the same for those who suffered in the prison cells of Argentia....I want vengence for the victims...I am sorry for that...but I have seen violence and to me it demands an accounting.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:12 PM
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3. Agreed
I have fought off an attempted rape(as an adult) as a kid I could not. After the attempt when I was 20, the guy was bleeding and his balls crushed laying in a fetal position as I stomped his face. I didn't care about him _at all_at that point,I wanted to stop him forever..I wish more women could have the confidence to just KILL the attackers and not worry about them. Every rapist deserves a painful fast dispatching death due to the outrage of the victim taking him out.

Rapists will STOP raping when it is too "Costly" to them to even try it.
Same reason most people just don't jump in front of speeding mac trucks at 20 feet away for kicks.It's too costly a price(death) for the asshole to pay for an adrenalin rush and feeling of POWER.
No game to play no true crime dramas..You step in front of a mac truck and it hits you,no thrill in that beyond suicide.

If rape meant sure suicide how many men would do it for a power trip?
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:45 PM
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17. I'd a kicked him in the nuts once more for good measure
Nice job. I agree 100% with your sentiment EXCEPT that a rapist deserves a fast death. A slow one is much more satisfying.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:17 PM
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4. I forget where
but once I was told that in Middle Eastern country they used to tie convicted rapists spread eagle in a courtyard ... and then they would let the women in ...

This was not a frequent event. Not much rape in that country, apparently.

I was never able to find corroborating references to this ... but if nothing else I kinda sympathize with the idea.
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jschurchin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:24 PM
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10. Sounds like fitting punishment.
Perhaps we need to call our reps and see if we can get a bill introduced.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:21 PM
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8. Also Selfish, Demeaning And Twisted.
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 10:21 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
To rape somebody is equivalent to murder in my opinion. And I'm talking about real rape, not like some 15 year olds or something. But real rape, to me, is no less despicable than murder. It takes the same degree of coldness and selfishness to commit, and the warped mentality to actually dehumanize the woman as if she is an object rather than a human being. To degrade, diminish, and attack someone in those ways says a lot about the character and capability of the person committing the rape. I say convicted rapists should suffer as bad a fate as possible short of the DP.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:28 PM
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13. In all due respect,
all rape is real rape.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:32 PM
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14. In All Due Respect Back,
No it isn't.

They consider two 15 year olds having sex as rape. I don't. Not in this context I was referring my reply to anyway.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:56 PM
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23. Locking.
Yes, rape is a crime. Other discussion on the topic is open in current GD threads.

Thanks for your consideration.
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