More involved in Oklahoma City bombing?

[AGENDA21]

Today is the 11th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.

Josh Nichols, son of Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols, sat down with Rita Cosby for an exclusive interview that airs tonight at 9 p.m. ET.

The interview took place in a prison where Josh Nichols is awaiting sentencing for a crime unrelated to the bombing. This is a transcript from their conversation.

RITA COSBY, HOST, 'LIVE & DIRECT': Do you think you're being overcharged? And that this has happened to you a bit before because you're Terry Nichols' son?

NICHOLS: Oh, absolutely. I have this shadow pulling at me and it's been pulling at me for 11 years. I've pulled back and I've done some great things in my life. Been through programs, the programs were great. It is what you make it. If you want to use the program to your advantage, go ahead and make something of yourself. And that's what I chose to do.

But we have bad days. Sometimes we have poor judgment. And I made some bad decisions. And I jump back in the streets and I committed some crimes.

More in link below:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12387753/

[Atman]

1. Time for my "We Compare Padilla" post again!

I like to drag this out of mothballs every now and then...the police sketch of OK's "John Dough," and good ol' Jose Padilla, ersatz WTC terrorist...

[jayfish]

8. How Old Was Padilla At The Time...

of the OKC bombing? ..ten?

Jay

[dogday]

2. Compare what Nichol's son looks like to that

picture.. He said they thought it was him because there is a similarity....

[RaleighNCDUer]

3. Well, you have to understand, the agent in charge who compared

the sketch to Nichols was Special Agent Magoo.

[dogday]

4. Here is the picture of Nichols son

[seemslikeadream]

5. Helicopter Above Murrah at the Moment of the OKC Bombing

More info. on what was undoubtedly the gummint covering-up its involvement in a false-flag terrorist bombing: Evidence for additional bombs, and eyewitness reports of a helicopter seen hovering above the Murrah Bldg. just before, during, and afer the explosion(s) -- and which the FBI showed absolutely NO interest in pursuing.

It's hard to avoid suspician that failure by officials to investigate and publicly disclose the TRUTH of what happened that day and which government officials and agencies were involved directly extended from the false-flag terrorism of the '93 WTC bombing, and directly contributed to the 911 false-flag ops.

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David Hoffman, author of "The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror" (Published by Feral House) wrote the following (taken from a chapter in that book):

Yet Rick Sherrow, who wrote an article for Soldier of Fortune magazine entitled "Bomb Blasts & Baloney," contends that the General's assessment of the bombing is somehow inaccurate. Sherrow claims that the pressure wave that would have struck the building from the blast of the ANFO bomb (375 p. s. i. according to Partin's figures) would be more than enough to destroy reinforced concrete columns, which Sherrow claimed in his article disintegrate at 30 p. s. i. (pounds per square inch).

Sam Gronning doesn't concur. "That's bullshit!!" exclaimed Gronning. "Thirty p. s. i. wouldn't take out a rubber tire!"

Citizens monitoring police radios heard the following conversation on the morning of the 19th: First voice: "Boy, you're not gonna' believe this!" Second voice: "Believe what?" First voice: "I can't believe it; this is a military bomb!"

When J. D. Cash, a journalist writing for the McCurtain County Gazette,, tried to interview members of the Bomb Squad, Fire Department and Police, he was generally told by potential interviewees, "I saw a lot that day, I wish I hadn't. I have a wife, a job, a family, I've been threatened, we've been told not to talk about the devices."

The most amount of force produced by even a perfectly made ANFO bomb weighing 4800 pounds, is 1,457 p. s. i. by the time it hit the glass of the Federal building. It's a law of physics that the destructive capabilities of a bomb fall off dramatically only a few feet from the blast.
By the time the blast front made contact with the column nearest to the bomb, the pressure would have decreased to 375 p. s. i., far below the 5,600 p. s. i. compressive yield strength of concrete. Even using General Partin's very conservative figure of 3,500 p. s. i. for the compressive yield strength of concrete, you would still require nine times the potential damage pressure from the bomb at that distance. Furthermore, the government would have us believe that the same bomb was able to blast through an additional seven major concrete columns. If we are to believe the absolute absurdity of the governments "science", then we should also endorse the practices of voodoo and witchcraft, for they both have the same amount of credibility.

Simply stated, it is a physical, chemical and thermodynamic impossibility for a 4800 pound ANFO bomb, at a distance of approximately 20 feet away, to of inflicted the kind of damage the government said it did.

As reported widely on CNN & news stations across the nation on the day of the bombing, up to four primed bombs were found inside the building by bomb detecting dogs. The BATF (Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms) later said they were dummy bombs, but why would bomb sniffing dogs find, or be needed to locate dummy bombs which are clearly marked as such; furthermore, why would munitions technicians spend so much time diffusing "dummy" bombs? KFOR-TV said that another bomb had been located strapped to a column next to the day-care center.

Around the noon hour, Channel 4 had as their guest Dr. Randall Heather, a terrorist expert. Dr. Heather stated: "We got lucky today, if you can consider anything about this tragedy lucky. We have both of the bombs that were defused at the site and they are being taken apart. We will be able to find out how they were made, and possibly who made them. These bombs are very sophisticated high explosives with maybe a little fertilizer damped around them."



Helicopter Above Murrah at the Moment of the OKC Bombing

Patrick Briley
August 2, 2005

http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick13.htm

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At a time when the public was being asked in OKC to call the FBI with leads about the bombing, I called the FBI offices in OKC on April 21, 1995 and asked to speak with an FBI agent to tell him about the helicopter and the witnesses. FBI agent Dan Vogel took my call and I fully identified myself to him with my name. I spoke about one sentence to agent Vogel about the helicopter witnesses when Vogel ended the call by telling me that the FBI would NOT be pursuing the helicopter information and by abruptly hanging up the telephone.

The one sentence I did tell Vogel was that I knew of several reliable witnesses who had seen a helicopter near and above the Murrah building before and after the Murrah bombing. I was not given the opportunity by Vogel to describe the helicopter or tell him who the witnesses were by name before he abruptly hung up on me. And if I had been given the chance I would have suggested to Vogel that the FBI track down who was flying the helicopter to find out what they saw and who they were.
But Vogel and the FBI clearly did NOT want to know or investigate. And neither Vogel nor anyone else from the FBI ever called me back about the story. The FBI knew how to reach me and Vogel knew who I was. Vogel knew who I was not only because I gave him my name but also because his wife Dee Vogel had worked with my wife for over ten years and my wife had taught his son Adam Vogel at Deer Creek High School near OKC.

FBI agent Dan Vogel did not even want this information from me on April 21, 1995 and he NEVER called me back. Believe me, he knows me. I him gave my name when I called and I explained to him then that my wife worked with his wife for over 10 years and also taught his son in high school.
My helicopter witnesses included a 32-year veteran of Air Force intelligence and a lady with a commanding view in a corporate skyscraper, the Kerr McGee building in downtown OKC.

Another helicopter witness was OKC resident Debbie Burdick who went to the FBI on the morning of the OKC bombing and told them of seeing McVeigh and John Does in McVeigh’s yellow Mercury, a brown Chevy truck and a blue Cavalier parked in line north of the Murrah building. Burdick said the men were looking up at a helicopter over the Murrah building just moments before the Murrah building was bombed.

Debbie Burdick was also threatened by FBI agent Odom from Denver twice, during and after the federal bombing trials, not to go to the press or to attorneys with her story. Burdick was asked by Odom to the effect, “You do not want to harm America by revealing your story, do you? But as a result of Burdick’s information three Middle Eastern men, Anis and Asad Siddiqy and Mohammed Chafti in the blue cavalier also associated with the 1993 WTC bombing were arrested on the day of the OKC bombing and then later released by direct intervention of the FBI. KFORTV reporter Brad Edwards told me in 1995 that he had a military veteran friend who served in Viet Nam that also observed the helicopter near and above the Murrah building.
OKCPD K-9 unit officer Don Browning investigated the helicopter story and has said that the FAA in OKC also knew of the helicopter’s presence. Browning has also said he believes from his investigation that the helicopter was used to track the bombing operation as it unfolded.

Former OK Governor Frank Keating did a taped interview with FOX news reporter Rita Cosby in 1995 in which Keating acknowledged but ridiculed and downplayed the helicopter story. This taped interview was played on Fox in other states but was blacked out in OKC. I have a copy of the interview.
General Benton Partin has said he viewed a photo taken from a helicopter above the Murrah building at the time of and just within seconds of the Murrah bombing. General Partin has also said the photo was shown to Partin by John Culbertson.

An OKC bombing victim family member had videotape showing a helicopter above the Murrah building at the time of the bombing. An OK sheriff filmed the videotape. The victim family member loaned the tape to John Culbertson who has never returned the tape. The family member also has said that they are unable to obtain another copy ot the videotape from the OK sheriff.

John Culbertson who took the family member tape is the same man who provided a photo Partin says was taken of the Murrah explosion from a helicopter. John Culbertson worked directly for former Congressman James Traficant for several years while Culbertson was collecting evidence from OKC bombing victims, investigators and witnesses that Culbertson has never returned.

[QuettaKid]

6. I would still love to hear an explanation for this. *PIC*

Big old yellow RYDER TRUCK photographed at a now abandoned army base near to OKC shortly before the bombing. Note the screens and wraparound fencing. Never heard a good explanation for this set of photos.

[Ganja Ninja]

7. Of course there were more.

Especially if you want to count the formerly government hating right wing blowhards of talk radio. It's amazing how these people have transformed from hysterical, paranoid, anti-government, fear mongers to hysterical, paranoid, anti-terrorist, pro-government, fear mongers

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. Was there something happening in the OK Federal Building

that Bushco didn't like? An investigation in the FBI office? DEA?

Just wondering.

[seemslikeadream]

10. The Mannlicher-Carcanno Bomb

http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt_01.htm

In a letter dated May 17, 1995, hand-delivered to each member of the Congress and Senate, Partin stated:

When I first saw the pictures of the truck-bomb's asymmetrical damage to the Federal Building, my immediate reaction was that the pattern of damage would have been technically impossible without supplementing demolition charges at some of the reinforcing concrete column bases…. For a simplistic blast truck-bomb, of the size and composition reported, to be able to reach out on the order of 60 feet and collapse a reinforced column base the size of column A-7 is beyond credulity.

The full text of Partin's report, reproduced in the appendix, is too complex to elaborate on here, says a truck filled with ammonium nitrate could not have caused the degree of damage done to the Alfred P. Murrah building. Not when it was parked at least 20 feet away from that building. Without direct contact, the fall-off from the blast would be too great to do any serious structural damage.<5>

Another man who knows a thing or two about bombs is Samuel Cohen, inventor of the Neutron Bomb. Cohen began his career on the Manhattan Project at Los Alamos, where he was charged with studying the effects of the atomic bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. During his 40 year career, Cohen worked with every application of nuclear weapons design and testing.

Cohen stated his position in a letter to Oklahoma State Representative Charles Key:

It would have been absolutely impossible and against the laws of nature for a truck full of fertilizer and fuel oil… no matter how much was used… to bring the building down.<6>


http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt.htm

The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror

[QuettaKid]

11. late kick. nt.

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