Alberto "Torture Buddy" Gonzales' porn fight is a prelude to Net control

[NoodleyAppendage]

Alberto Gonzales' current media push to warn against child porn is nothing more than a fear-based propaganda effort to rile the masses to support Justice Dept. legislation to MONITOR ALL INTERNET TRAFFIC in the US. While child porn is reprehensible (so's torture for that matter...but we don't talk about that), fighting it does not require DOMESTIC SPYING on all US Internet users.

Today it is "supposedly" only to detect child porn, tomorrow it will be to detect political dissent. People who scoff at this as alarmist only need to look at the practices of Net use in China.

The Internet originally (and still is) a democratizing force that SPEAKS TRUTH TO POWER, but those in power are now trying to reverse the equation and turn it into a mode of social control.

J

[havocmom]

1. You got it

:thumbsup:

[NoodleyAppendage]

8. Here's a solution...

http://www.metropipe.net/pvpm.php

J

[wtmusic]

11. Get that and Skype

and the AG can kiss your ass.

http://www.skype.com/

[NoodleyAppendage]

13. That's awesome! Buubye...Vonage. Thanks! n/t

J

[fooj]

2. Yep.

Why doesn't he go after Gannon? Doesn't he still frequent the WH...late night, that is.

[NoodleyAppendage]

6. I thought Gannon was verboten at the WH now??

Now that Puffy is gone, I guess Gannon will have to go elsewhere for his media whoring.

J

[rkc3]

3. Sounds like the slippery slope gun rights advocates are always

throwing out.

I wonder if we could enlist their help in this fight?

[GodlessBiker]

4. I agree.

[NoodleyAppendage]

5. Do we know who's supporting the PRO-CITIZEN SPYING ACT?

We need to use the language to counter this effort. Rather than their stupid anti-child porn act or whatever they're calling it, we need to reterm it for what it is the "Pro-Citizen Net Spying" act.

Who's supporting this profascist crap in the House and Senate?? It's time to hit the phones early and often.

J

[Neil Lisst]

7. Absolutely. It's a ruse. As always, they're saving us from something.

[DBoon]

9. it IS about porn

He wants to find out what sort of porn various important people frequent, for purposes of blackmail

[NoodleyAppendage]

14. Interesting angle. I didn't think about that, but it's possible.

Spooks have used the planted porn or porn reveals to blackmail and the Feds routinely use it to impeach witnesses or defendants (particularly in conservative districts).

J

[xchrom]

10. morality has always been the refuge of people who want

to control other people.

people of more limited imagination than they -- people that p.t. barnum described among others.

the talk about morality is meant to get to you -- my fellow duers -- none other than you.

whether it's lieberman's diatribes on hollywood or another conservative bludgeoning you with ''personal reponsibility -- or the ''new'' post ''9-11'' politician trying to do ''right'' in the name of society and protection from some unknown attack.

it's ulitimately about people just like you.

[EFerrari]

15. About us and the pedophiles they hire at the NSA . . . . .n/t

[cry baby]

12. exactly! nt

[blogslut]

16. clarification

the OP wrote:

Today it is "supposedly" only to detect child porn,

No. The move by the DOJ is designed to enforce the Child Online Protection Act (COPA). COPA has nothing to do with protecting children from being victimized by CP. COPA is a law that makes it illegal for kids to see adult content on the web. COPA was signed into law in 1998 and has yet to be prosecuted becuase it's been ruled unconstitutional 3 times.

[NoodleyAppendage]

17. Thanks for that. In any event, the end result is wholesale databasing...

In order to do what they want to do, ISPs will have to maintain massive databases of all traffic originating (and maybe travelling through) their pipelines. Presumably, these databases could then be mined for whatever content the PROFASCISTS are look for in much the same manner that they are currently undertaking with Eschelon (NSA-wiretapping technology).

J