Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Who Was A Better Liar? Fleischer or McClellan

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:24 PM
Original message
Poll question: Who Was A Better Liar? Fleischer or McClellan
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 04:27 PM by arwalden
DISCUSSION: Who told the most lies? The biggest lies?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
1. can't answer due to the ongoing investigation, though I appreciate the ?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
2. I'm voting old school
I think Ari lied better. McClellan was too obvious.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. What Gloria Smith Said
Ari was oh so slick, scotty was oh so defensive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. I agree
I always expected Scotty to finish with "yeah, that's the ticket"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. rofl!
I never thought of that before but you're absolutely right! :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #2
14. agreed...n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #2
18. Exactly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #2
24. Sorry, Gloria, I disagree
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 11:05 PM by Jack Rabbit
Ari was the most transparent liar ever to hold that job. I hope he doesn't have affairs. He'll never hide it from his wife.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #24
30. WHAAAA????
Obviously they were both liars, but did Scott really come across as more believable that Ari did??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Neither was believable
Mother Goose reading fairy tales would be more believable than any press secretary relating the Bush regime's version of reality. But McClellan seemed more comfortable telling the lies than Ari did.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:27 PM
Response to Original message
4. How do you lie when you just aren't commenting on an on-going
investigation?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:29 PM
Response to Original message
6. Fleisher definitely was a better liar
I think to some extent Scotty thought he was telling the truth, or wasn't far enough in the loop to know his claims were not true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Maybe That Was Their "Plan" ... The Thought He Would Sound Believable...
... if Scotty himself really believed what was being said. I definitely think that he was kept at an arms-distance from what was going on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:34 PM
Response to Original message
9. I'm still shocked Bush traded a bald man for one with hair
I never saw that coming. :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:35 PM
Response to Original message
10. Snotty McMushroom merely delivered the manure he received.
Arid Flyshit ate it up and generated his own - he took pride in lying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
11. I didn't start watching the WH press briefings until Scottie
which says something -- it wasn't until after Ari left that they sunk to the point of ridiculous (and thus entertaining). Ari lied better (he wasn't as transparent) but I think that Snotty Scottie told more lies that you could recognize outright as such (because he's a BAD liar).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smacky44 Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:04 PM
Response to Original message
12. Fleischer was a better liar...more polish.
Scott was really in way over his head. This administration seems to be rife with unqualified, incompetents who are places in positions far beyond their skill and intelligence level.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #12
19. I agree...Ari had a real conman persona about him...
And that perception made him more believable. In fact, outside the White House, I would expect him to be wearing a plaid suit, chewing on a toothpick and saying something like, "Tell ya what I'm gonna do..."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:05 PM
Response to Original message
13. Ari had many more ways to avoid responding. Less monotone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
15. I would have phrased it , who was a worse liar. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. That Thought Occurred To Me Too...
... would the poll results be reversed if I had asked it that way?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:42 PM
Response to Original message
16. Ari was so smarmy he left oil slicks in his wake
Scottie seems to struggle with it but the lies, combined with an arrogant disdain for anyone even daring to question Bushco was Ari's forte.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:44 PM
Response to Original message
17. Ari, hands down
Scottie comes off as such an arrogant, bumbling idiot compared to Ari.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:31 PM
Response to Original message
21. Ari
No two ways about it
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:32 PM
Response to Original message
22. Fleischer a better liar, McClellan a better dodger.
Although I think they hit McClellan a lot harder.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Excellent Observations!
Scotty is definitely good at giving evasive non-answers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:17 PM
Response to Original message
25. Ari was a better liar, but sometimes he told the truth, like when he
said that people need to be careful about what they say. Yep, 9-11 gave them all kinds of "authority" to shred the Constitution. And people who aren't careful about what they say have to answer to the SS.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:19 PM
Response to Original message
26. Tony Snow will top them all
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:22 PM
Response to Original message
27. Ari........without a doubt
From what I remember, he was pretty slick. Baby huey on the other hand gets so nervous when questioned.......it's so obvious that he's a nervous wreck.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:22 PM
Response to Original message
28.  I always thought Fleischer was much more convincing
He was able to speak more effectively, even in relatively spontaneous responses to questions. McClellan tends to quietly panic and repeat his lines over and over.

Nevertheless, both are infuriatingly arrogant and condescending, to the point of being almost over-the-top. It's like a caricature.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shugah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:22 PM
Response to Original message
29. you can't spell liar
without the 'a' and 'r' and 'i'.

better liar? hard to say. neither was particularly convincing...

i am quite sure, however, that ari enjoyed it more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 06:17 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC