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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:46 PM
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BUSH: the economy is great, unemployment also? Do you believe this?
Why should we believe A-n-y-t-h-i-n-g President Bush and his administration claim?? -- We know this President has lied all too many times in the past five years, he installs his "crew" to run operations and from that point take direction from the White House on what is allowed in the press he fibbed about the cost of new drug plan deal, put a gag order on the scientists over global warming and the list as most know is a long one which I don't want to start here.

I'm just stating that before Bush took office I was able to give someone the benefit of doubt but with Bush at the helm one can't help but to remain skeptical when this man makes his claims.

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:47 PM
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1. let's see--headline in this morning's paper "housing foreclosures rising"
YEP--sounds like a booming economy to ME!!
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ColdWarVet Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:57 PM
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12. Just a guess....
But I would wager alot of those are people who went to the limit on a mortgage and took a variable rate. With interest rising a few points, that affordable payment is out the window.

Glad I'm fixed at 4.5%, and seven years to go.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:48 PM
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2. A big N ..... O ......
The only ones the economy is working for right now are the ones who don't work for their money but wait for their dividend checks.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:49 PM
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3. I am proof that this is false
At least anecedotally. Three graduate degrees - the most recent earned in 2001 - and two professional licenses. And now unemployed for over three years. I am no longer counted as "unemployed."
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:52 PM
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9. Coyote, good point, over three years the ununemployed aren't counted
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:50 PM
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4. In a word ... NO!... here's why...
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:51 PM
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5. If every thing's so great then
Why is his approval rating at 33%
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:52 PM
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6. The overall figures don't deal with wealth/income distribution
A booming GDP that benefits only a small part of the population will not be perceived as prosperity by the majority of the population.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:52 PM
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7. No! I didn't get a million plus tax refund.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:52 PM
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8. yep, Walmart is hiring
Hope you can live off minimum wage and no benefits.
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:13 PM
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17. Hey don't knock my retirement plan...
at least when my retirement runs out I can be a greeter at Wally World... Joy, Joy...Happy, Happy :sarcasm:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:53 PM
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10. Not at all. Just read a great article by Paul Craig Roberts on this.
http://baltimorechronicle.com/2006/021306Roberts.shtml

<snip> Job growth over the last five years is the weakest on record. The US economy came up more than 7 million jobs short of keeping up with population growth.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:53 PM
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11. The economy IS doing GREAT...IF you make 300,000+.
As far as the unemployment figures go, I don't believe we're getting the whole picture! People are employed, even if they are making 1/3 of their pay in job they were displaced from. Airline workers are STILL EMPLOYED, except they had to take massive pay cuts!

And I just don't buy the story that they can still track the people who have run out of unemployment but still haven't found a job! I get the idea that they collect data from job bank applicants, employment agencies etc. but my guess is there are a whole lot of people who can't be tracked anymore!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:58 PM
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13. Well, if you like jobs growing in the minimum wage sector....
...it's just FABULOUS!

Let's see...

*Outsourcing technology jobs;
*Foreclosures up again;
*Personal bankruptcies are on the rise;
*At least 40 million Americans can't afford healthcare;
*The cost of food, gasoline, and utilities is almost out of reach for most Americans.

Yes, indeed! Just FABULOUS!!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 04:59 PM
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14. everything king george and his crime gang says is a lie
the economy is great if you are:

a multi-brazilianaire

a below-living-wage Wal-Mart or fast-food drone with no conception that anything could be better

OR

a delusional, insane freeper, religious nut "moran"
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:01 PM
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15. The economy is goin' great!
In fact, I saw several fast food vendors with help wanted signs up. So if flipping burgers is your thing, you're set!
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:07 PM
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16. I was unemployed for 2 1/2 years. Dropped from the rolls after 1 year.
These unemployed figures are absurd. After you go off unemployment, you are not figured in the calculation. You become invisible. And there are lots of folks like that. Plus, what about the underemployed, those who once had good jobs like manufacturing, and are now working at the Dairy Queen that just opened becuase it's spring?
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:27 PM
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18. It's the difference in Clinton and bush*
bush* says the econony is booming. Clinton didn't have to.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:43 PM
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19. November can't come fast enough for the Bush adminisration
Feingold is right about censure
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:45 PM
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20. no way
Jobs going away. Wages dropping. Benefits becoming dinosaurs. Outsourcing. Deficits. Local governments going bankrupt. States so poor theyre closing schools.
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Exiled in America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:46 PM
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21. Unemployed six weeks and counting: FU Bush and your "great" economy
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 05:56 PM
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22. And all we can do is hope we're not Diebolded in November?
And even then, will we merely be reminded by the Dems taking office that it's going to take a long time to repair the damage caused by Bushco while domestic issues hang in the balance...!
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:11 PM
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23. Follow the 180 degree rule in dealing w/GOP info
Whatever they say, believe the opposite is true!

For a fact, the economy is sooooooo f*g good that we rent out our 4 bdr home/yard; spouse now stays w/the married kids 5 days and commutes back to my apartment one hour's drive away. The apartment is 0.3 mile from my job, so I can walk but still need the Jeep for errands. He drives my car which gets better mileage. BTW, our first renter skipped out. Boy, did he have some tall tales! Due to two years of unemployment and the expense of keepin dear old Dad in the style he was accustomed and trying to help college-student kid too, we've no savings left and can't seem to save anything either. I thought my job was pretty good at $13 w/benefits but my employer now makes me pay another $250 for healthcare after reducing my hours from 40 to 30 per week. It's tough when you realize you've worked at a place for 10 years and don't even have that many Gs in the retirement fund which was an employER only discretionary contribution pension account (Guess he didn't contribute very much!). Now, it's a converted employEE-only contributory 401K that gets 1 hour of my check a week. Daughter dropped out of college because her PT job didn't give her enough hours to cover extra expenses while she gets deeper in debt for school loans. I suppose she'll be moving in w/Dad and. when I finally join them, I guess I'll be job hunting again in a new city at something over that "certain age." JOY! Of even greater concern, I need to do something soon or I'll get screwed out of voting (as if in Ohio that matters much). SIL is currently unemployed and daughter doesn't make what she's worth but her gig is at least honorable and close to home--they've been in their home only a couple years; sure hope he can get a nibble soon because her salary just isn't enough to carry the ball for long! YUP, things are just roaring good under the GOP! Ray-gun's deregulation started the ball rollin' downhill. Bill Clinton's penis gets a pass because at least during those years of merging, downsizing, corporate moves out-of-town, and other choice bits of defense-type rearrangements of contracts, the IT spouse still was able to eek! out a livin'.

The BFEE is just that, evil, and a whole lot more - LIARS ONE AND ALL!

Trust me, follow the 180 degree rule any time they speak! WON'T YOU JUST MISS SCOTTY ALL TO H9LL!
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