Baylor To Coeds: Pose For Playboy, Face Consequences

[dogday]

WACO, Texas -- The world's biggest Baptist university warned students not to pose for Playboy, but a magazine spokeswoman said some showed up to meet photographers anyway.

Theresa Hennessey would not say how many Baylor University students arrived for the interviews at a Texas hotel this week. She said only that the Baylor turnout was lower than other schools because of its religious affiliation.

Baylor sent an e-mail reminder to students last week that associating with a magazine that contradicts the school's "mission" would violate the conduct code. Possible sanctions range from a warning to expulsion.

Selected photos will appear as part of a "Girls of the Big 12 Conference" spread in October.

http://www.click2houston.com/education/8858794/detail.html


Since when did a college dictate what one can do in their life?

[coffeenap]

1. "coed"??? What is this, 1962? This is a current headline! yikes! nt

[marions ghost]

2. it seems to me that

the college could discourage Playboy directly -- rather than exerting control over female students. However colleges I think are within their right to dictate what students can do if it involves what they feel is bad publicity for the school.

I don't feel strongly about this except that it seems to fit with "restrict and punish women" instead of restricting the male-oriented magazine from easy access to their students, if they have a problem with it.

[Bill McBlueState]

24. what kinds of colleges?

You say, "colleges I think are within their right to dictate what students can do if it involves what they feel is bad publicity for the school."

Do you think that's the case for all colleges, or only for certain types of colleges?

[acmejack]

3. They threw some students out before for posing

If memory serves. I seem to remember a flap about that last time Playboy did a similar feature.

[blogslut]

4. shocked...not

Come on, it's Baylor.

[NaturalHigh]

5. Well, Baylor is a private university.

I don't really think this is out of line.

[Perky]

6. I actually Agree with the university's right in this case

The woman is free to do whatever she wants. But if whee chooses to leave a Baylor cap on. Baylor has the right to sanction her.

If the woman posed for the "Girls of the Fortune 50" And wore her CitiCorp badge I would say the bank has the right to suspend her. Its not about what a woman chooses to do, it is about it being disruptive to the community AND the FACT that the University has a right to protect its image and its branding.

She want to pose it is fine by me. But The University has the right to take action if she does. It would be different if she posed on her own and she was not doing so in her as a result of her attending Baylor.

[dogday]

7. So as long as she is wearing a cap, she

should not do anything anywhere to embarrass Baylor??

[Perky]

8. Perhaps I should have said "ONLY a CAP" Ha-ha

[dogday]

9. I hear that!!!! nt

[Darth_Kitten]

11. Women need to start learning to respect themselves.....

The selfish twits who pose for Playboy should appreciate the fact they can get a university education and better themselves, unlike too many women.

They can do whatever they want I guess, but don't drag anybody else down. I'm with the university.
I guess the ladies didn't realize that not everybody is as impressed with them as any horny freshman. :evilgrin:

[dogday]

12. So Playboy takes no responsibility for this?

If they know they school's policy, why do they violate it????

[marions ghost]

15. bingo

crass commercial exploitation of students is tolerated -- maybe if the girls brought big money to the college like sports stars, Baylor would get over it.

[Darth_Kitten]

39. I don't know.....

must be morons. :)

[marions ghost]

13. yes she would be

representing the university. If you doesn't want to go to a conservative school, don't go to one. This would be a good indicator, but not only for the prude factor. I would also analyse how the university handles student non-compliance, esp in relatively small matters.

Seems to me that it's typical draconian 'double standard' behavior to clamp down on female students and punish them, without also requesting that the magazine not include Baylor in it's lineup. The way they're doing it sends the wrong message --provoking rebellion and adding more fuel to the fire. Not good psychology. Dumb. It would be better to use the opportunity to stimulate intelligent discussion about how far the students and university have responsibilities regarding the commercial exploitation of students.

[Rabrrrrrr]

14. I'm with you - the university has a right to protect its image,

and all the students signed on to a code of conduct before coming to the school.

But if they suspend a woman for posing nude, and she wears no university logos, and makes no mention of where she goes to school, then I don't think the university has a right to kick them out even though they've signed a code of conduct.

[kay1864]

31. The school is ALWAYS mentioned with each student that appears

Woman's name, school, and usually major, accompanies each picture. Oftentimes a pennant with the school logo is in the background, if it's made to look like it was taken in a dorm.

[Perky]

37. That's the righgt answer IMO. (N/T)

[mark11727]

10. Pose them in burkas, with a Baylor banner...

...hey folks, we tried.

[ugarte]

16. Yeah. How about nude beneath a burka? The perfect compromise...nt

[marions ghost]

20. that would probably go over well

in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Bursting burka babes.

[DrGonzoLives]

22. Barely Legal in Burqas!

n/t

[mark11727]

30. "Burqas Gone Wild...?"

[Gato Moteado]

17. it's a baptist school

war, guns, corporate welfare and the anti-christian repuke agenda are good.

nudity is a sin.

i gotta wonder about anyone that would go to baylor in the first place.

[dogday]

18. It is also considered one of the best medical

universities in the country... I think many go just for that reason, not because it is baptist....

[Gato Moteado]

19. i didn't know that

nt

[The Stranger]

23. Actually, the medical school broke from Baylor in Waco decades ago.

Found this:

In 1969, Baylor College of Medicine separated from Baylor University under the direction of Dr. Michael E. DeBakey. Currently, it is led by Dr. Peter Traber, formerly of GlaxoSmithKline.

http://www.answers.com/topic/baylor-college-of-medicine-1

I didn't think that any decent academic institution would have anything to do with this "mission" religious garbage.

[dogday]

25. Well actually I was talking about this one

http://www.baylorhealth.edu/Education/gme/BUMC.htm

Baylor University Medical Center (BUMC) is the flagship of the Baylor Health Care System, a multi-hospital, not-for-profit system of health care facilities based in Dallas and serving the North Texas region. BUMC is one of the largest church-related hospitals in the United States, and one of the primary referral centers in the Southwest.

[The Stranger]

27. But that is not "one of the best medical universities in the country."

Not even close.

But the one that broke away is.

[dogday]

28. Whatever....

[gkhouston]

34. exactly

the pre-meds I knew in college were all greasing to get into BCM in Houston or medical schools out of state.

[RB TexLa]

26. That is the choice everyone faces

Baylor does have great medical, and as you said you might chose to go there, if you do I'm sure they let you know upfront all of the rules and restrictions that apply to you. This is the same for conservatives or fundies that chose to go to a public school such as the woman who is at Ga. Tech and doesn't care for their tolerance policies and regulations. She made the choice to go to Ga. Tech and if she doesn't feel the education to outweigh her political differences with school regulations she should enroll in a different school. I know some people that went to Baylor and are not fundies or conservatives, they made it through fine. They did say it was different, but they got what they wanted from it. Good luck to you.

[dogday]

29. I am not going to Baylor

I am just posting an article... Thanks for the luck though :hi:

[LostinVA]

21. It's a religious college, they have a right to do this

IF she is wearing a cap, etc., or if Baylor is mentioned in the text. I'm sure she's signed something when she entered school.

HOWEVER: then all skin mags should be banned from dorms, just to make it fair.

And no, I'm not a prude -- just exposing the double standard.

[Left Is Write]

33. It's not necessarily a double standard.

It can be against the rules to appear in a magazine in one's capacity as a Baylor student without being against the rules to read that magazine.

I think they're making a tempest in a teapot myself, but then, I don't run Baylor University.

[Left Is Write]

32. I agree with others that the university is within its rights.

If the school has a code of conduct its students agree to by virtue of enrolling at and attending the school, then the school has a right to enforce that code of conduct.

[peacebaby3]

35. At my University we had a code of conduct that was given to us on the

first day during orientation. If you break the code of conduct, which does include what you do off campus if you are in some way a representative of the school, can get you kicked out.

I have no problem with Baylor's decision. These girls can choose as they please, they just can't represent Baylor.

[bluestateguy]

36. As a private university they can do that

UT girls are better looking anyway.

[Javaman]

38. Baylor is a joke.

A buddy of mine got a job there as a prof a few years back. He was fresh off his doctoral degree and needed to start building a resume, so he would jump at any chance to be a prof at any college.

After only 2 months there, he was dreading his decision.

It's not spelled out, but it's a place were wealthy texans send their dumb rugrats. And the profs are expected to pass these dimwits regardless of their grades.

My buddy, a yellow dog democrat, couldn't deal with that and so quit. LOL He now is a prof at a Washington State college.

On a side note: one of his colleagues got fired for not attending church, but what makes this bizarre is: although this guy didn't attend the baptist church at the school (attending church or religious services is required by the college), he would attend the "church under the bridge". Which was a church that helped the homeless people and allowed them a church of their own to attend. So here is this guy following in the true spirit of the word of Christ and gets fired for not attending "their" church.

got to love that hypocrisy!