Don't call me anti-troop

[KingFlorez]

I get sick of war fanatics calling us anti-troop or anti-american. I created this thread to vent about this. I really resent being called names like that because I don't support a dangerous war. My grandfather served in World War Two, plus nearly 30 years after the war ended travelling to Panama and West Germany. His sons all served in some form in the armed services and when one of them died I carried the vault for his ashes at the Veterans Cemetary because I thought he deserved it because of his service, so with that you can't call me anti-troop and I'm betting it's alot more than quite a few of these pro-war people have. I respect the troops and don't think they should be fighting for a lie, if anything is anti-american and anti-troop, it's supporting the Iraq War and the lies that caused people's deaths. If you have a rant also, please post.

[paparush]

1. Bush - The AWOL President** is Anti-Troop

5 Deferrment Cheney is Anti-Troop
"Not Me" Rummy is Anti-Troop
Karl "Did not Serve" Rove is Anti-Troop

[Tom Rinaldo]

2. Notice that virtually all the recent war vets running for Congress

are Democrats?

"MEET THE 'A TEAM'

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America PAC has announced its endorsed candidates for the 2006 election cycle! Each of the candidates below will immediately receive financial help, institutional training and support, as well as have independent expenditures made that will benefit their campaigns. Please take the time to read their profiles and overview of the political landscape in their home districts, and send them support."
http://www.iavapac.org/index2.html

[IndyOp]

3. I am pro-troop because I am a pacifist and want to end all wars

The troops in the US military have often joined for the best of motives and throughout our nation's history, but especially since WWII -- their life and lives have been used for terrible missions.

I do not support the job that soldiers do, because a soldier's job is to kill.

I want all troops to refuse to serve now and forever, and I want us to find *everyone* in this nation excellent job opportunities for all our men and women.

[Teaser]

10. used to be a pacifist

recent circumstances have convinced me that violence *does* solve some problems.

[peacebaby3]

16. I've had to really work on my thoughts of whether I'm a pacifist or not.

I always say that I'm a borderline pacifist...LOL. Yes, I know, WTF is that???? You either are or you're not a pacifist, right?. I realize that if it became an absolute last resort to protect my loved ones or even those that had no protection that I would do what is necessary. I honestly think that is human nature.

[IndyOp]

17. Violence *does* solve some problems??

World War II is still not over -- rocks and bullets are being exchanged now in Israel/Palestine.

Over 250 Military and CIA interventions since WWII -- over 5 million people around the world killed by the US and US agents -- 4 million Indochinese in the Vietnam Era and 1 million Iraqis over the past 15 years...

Real Shock & Awe: After 15 Years War, Sanctions 1,000,000 Iraqis Dead

Solves problems? Please elaborate or not -

:shrug:

[Teaser]

20. Solved some problems for me

It's personal.

[madokie]

4. Call me anti-war but not anti-troops, I was once a troop in a war for lies

and I live with that each and every day.

[Peanutcat]

5. I know how you feel--

But you have to realize that for those people, hating the war and hating the troops are the same thing; Hating Bush and hating the United States are the same thing. These people cannot hold two different thoughts in their tiny, pea-picking brains. The only thing you can do is ignore these idiots because nothing you say will change their minds.

[mdmc]

6. Don't call me supportive of the troops

simply because I supported w.'s invasion of Iraq in 2003. Just because I stood behind the pres when he sent troops into harms way, does not mean that I support the troops.
If I truly supported the troops, I would have done everything in my power to keep them out of unnecessary harms way. Since it was easier for me to support "the mission" and to "continue to support the mission", I really am not for the troops at all.
I am for the rat worm enabling of preemptive war.
I think this represents every Democratic senator.:mad:

[mdmc]

23. I support the troops - bring the home with victory!

every senator except Ted Kennedy:patriot: Ted Kennedy is the best!

[JohnnyRingo]

7. Calling people who want to end a war unpatriotic is a desparate tactic

that dates back at least to the Viet war era.

My favorite is "If you want to dissent the war...wait until it's over, then critisize all you want".

I've heard them all.

[The Sleeper]

8. My uncle is serving in Afghanistan.

He's 58.


So...Go fucketh thyself cowardly freepweenies....

[Left Is Write]

9. Well said and thank you.

[Bluerthanblue]

11. is it 'anti-firefighters' to work to prevent fires? It's the same

damn thing- yet no one will admit it-

I was the wife of a Firefighter/emt for 15yrs. --

The BEST way to support the Troops is find ways to NEVER need to 'use' their skills.
Same with police officers- shall we encourage crime so that we can 'be proud' of our PEACE Officers?

Ask them that next time they try and paint you as "anti-troop"- It is those who would blythely go to war at the drop of a hat who are anti-troop. They forget that behind the word 'soldier' is a human being- Not a machine that doesn't bleed, suffer, fear, doubt, cry and DIE. Or who finds out that the people who said "trust me, and do what I say" often lie- and then leave these HUMAN BEINGS to struggle with their own experience, frustrations, and feelings of betrayal.

Anti-war, IS pro-troop. Anyone who has ever been, known or loved a soldier knows this. We lie to ourselves, and say 'it was worth it'- but that is the lie that keeps everyone accepting that war is something that solves anything. And the circle it goes round and round.

[TexasLawyer]

12. AnySoldier.com

I HATE this war and am doing everything I can to stop it because I love our troops and want them to fight only when we have REAL battles and REAL problems, like Katrina.

My family and I send AT LEAST one care package a week to random platoons that we find through AnySoldier.com. On that site, the guys (and gals) tell you a little bit about what they're doing in Iraq or Afghanistan, and tell you what they could really use, like pillows, magazines, beef jerky, etc...

http://www.anysoldier.com/WhereToSend/

We are Bush-hating liberals, but I would say we are doing more to "Support the Troops" than 90% of the yahoos around here who drive around with that magnetized message on their cars.

[Joe Fields]

13. Okay by me. I'm with you.

[peacebaby3]

14. I was told I was unpatriotic and anti-troop while my hubby was serving in

Iraq. People would tell me that they knew my husband must be ashamed of me and when I said that he felt the same way about the "war" then they would say that he was a traitor and that he would probably get killed while he was over there by other soldiers. If they didn't say that, they would say that he should be court-martialed and executed. I had one person try to track down his personal info through the internet so they could report him for violating the UCMJ because of what I said on a message board (which was how I didn't support the war, etc.). Another person found out his mailing address and wrote a letter to him saying I was having an affair while he was over there. He couldn't get his facts together though and it was pretty apparent he was full of shit.

These are the same people who vote for * and his ilk and ride around with yellow ribbon magnets.

[JohnnyRingo]

15. Oh My!

Zealot doesn't even begin to describe these warhawks.
What the hell is wrong with these people?

I don't think the word has been invented yet to describe such hateful behaviour.

[KingFlorez]

18. Good lord

They are really sick if they would go to such lenghts. That is scary!

[peacebaby3]

19. Yep. I was always amazed at how they thought they supported my husband and

his fellow soldiers more than I did. They also believed that they knew my husband better than I did, hence the comment about how he would be ashamed of me for the things that I say. :rofl:

It so reminds me of when they attack Cindy Sheehan and say how dare she say those things about Casey and how he would be ashamed of her for what she is doing, etc. etc. The fucking gall of these people is unbelievable!!!! They have no idea what Casey would have thought and I can guarantee you he would have stood beside his mother before he would any of these foaming at the mouth right-wingers.

[Mountainman]

21. The anti troop folks are the repukes who want to take money away

from veterans programs. The put yellow ribbons on their cars and vote for closing VA hospitals.

[NuttyFluffers]

22. how does pro-useless-war-of-choice translate to pro-troops?

i'll never understand these chickenhawk morons.

those who want to throw the troops' lives away on pointless goose chases for corporate profit and creature comforts are the only one's worthy enough to be called anti-troop.

but then chickenhawk morons are bassackward in every way imaginable. every day is opposite day for them. it probably has to do with head-up-the-ass syndrome.