We Speak of Terrorism. America=Terrorism?

[IKScott]

I wonder if America is called a terrorist organization now days. In my opinion we literally are. If you look at it from a perspective. We tell countries what they can and what they can't do. If they don't abide we basically go to war with them and change their government and maybe to an extent their culture for them. Is this not a form of terrorism? To force a country to do something against their will. In my opinion it is, but that's just me. An it's not just with Iran and Iraq, which are recent acts of this, but over the years America has picked up the title "The World Police", if you go back in history you see several acts of this. Isn't this a bit hypocritical really? I mean what if the sides flopped. What if it was America being invaded (Probably as foreign countries see it, not being liberated as we see it.), what if it was our government being forced to change, our heritage and culture being altered. Can one really say that they would be comfortable with that situation? I would think not, but then again there's always the possibility. I hear a lot of "Well Iran is a hostile country", I imagine though that foreign countries considered us hostile, their stance would probably come from our recent acts; Afghanistan, Iraq, and now a situation with Iran. Would that mean that we should also be forced to destroy our nuclear weapons, stop all uranium enrichment in America, and not to mention the power shortages that we would start to have if we where stripped of our nuclear power plants.

P.S.
This was not intended to offend anyone, it was merely a speculation. Maybe I will get some feedback for a good discussion/debate on this one. By the way please excuse any grammer/spelling errors in this reply.

[rooney]

1. I agree with you because

GWB said there were three things that made Saddam an evil man and terrorist and he himself, has accomplished all three. (GWB that is) Saddam invaded a foreign country. So did GWB. Saddam killed some of his own people. GWB executes Americans. Saddam has ??? weapons of mass distruction. GWB and USA have them , also. For two years my husband has been saying this, I hear it a lot, so I thought I would pass it on.

[JohnyCanuck]

2. Check out this video

"Beyond Treason" posted at google video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7994353294099338929

[IKScott]

3. Assumptions

I'm assuming that you wanted me to checkout that video to get an idea of what the consequences are of a nuclear attack. I understand that clearly. My question is what is your stance on America bullying other countries around telling them what they can and cannot do?

[titoresque]

4. It's amazing

that we can talk about nuking another country because we
will not allow them to have nukes.....well, that's the party line anyhow. Makes your head spin.

[IKScott]

5. News link?

I've heard rumors saying that we would even consider the possibility of nuking Iran if they didn't abandon Uranium Enrichment as you mentioned. I have yet to find a news link to that rumor though. If anybody has a link to that please let me know what it is. I would like to read about that. It would be outrageous to nuke another country though. It's outrageous though just to even consider the idea after seeing the side effects of nuclear attack on Japan during WWII.

[titoresque]

7. seriously??

hang on, I'll get that for you......

[titoresque]

8. google: Iran nukes on the table

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/003200604191869.htm


you'll find what you're looking for.

Bush refuses to rule out nuclear weapons strike against Iran
Washington, April. 19 (PTI): US President George W Bush has said efforts were on to resolve the Iran issue diplomatically but refused to rule out the use of nuclear weapons against the country in the event of a showdown.

"We want to solve this issue diplomatically and are working hard to do so," Bush told reporters yesterday.

Asked if options on Iran included plans for a nuclear attack the President said "All options are on the table."

Bush said that he will be discussing Iran's nuclear activities with visiting Chinese President President Hu Jintao.

The US President's latest statement comes at a time when envoys from six countries are holding talks in Moscow on the Iranian crisis with Washington looking at the next steps at the United Nations Security Council and beyond.

Both Russia and China have flatly rejected any notion of sanctions as a way of pressuring the regime in Teheran.

Speculation of a nuclear strike on Iran with a view to taking out its facilities has been on the rise ever since journalist Seymour Hersh wrote his investigative piece in 'The New Yorker' saying Washington was mulling the use of tactical nukes to wipe out Iran's sub-terranean sites.




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[Imagevision]

11. "and are working hard to do so"? - that's what they told us about Iraq

Without Bush, the world wouldn't be in this shape, even winning in November, so much damage alrady done, so much unnecessary slaughter!

[IKScott]

12. Bush Adminstration

I don't know why the Bush Adminstration are at an urge for war. Well thats what it seems like to me I mean it's been continous since he's got in office.

[JohnyCanuck]

10. My point (which I should have explained) was

that if the powers that be allow the use of chemical, biological and radiological weapons on their own people, they certainly won't hesitate using them against those that have been branded as "the enemy." And, as Maj Doug Rokke points out in the video, by the widespread use of depleted uranium munitions the US is in effect using other countries and their populations as a dumping ground for its own hazardous nuclear waste. That's terrrorism in my books, especially considering that we also now have scientific confirmation that depleted uranium binds to DNA and causes genetic damage and mutations leading to cancer (See: http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20060307010324data_trunc_sys.shtml ).

[BuyingThyme]

6. Shock & Awe = Terrorism & Terrorism

[IKScott]

9. Thanks

That helped clarify for the bits and pieces I had been hearing.

[Terran1212]

13. Read the quotation in my signature by Howard Zinn

[IKScott]

14. Quote Accurate

Sounds accurate.

[lectrobyte]

15. google up some of Noam Chomsky's articles. We're an

empire, although we don't like to admit it to ourselves.