Cindy Sheehan flame bait

[medeak]

asked my dear cousin who is lifetime military and runs army hospital in GA...if it was true that if we dissent against the war..are we perceived as not supporting the troops?

She gave me a resounding "NO"....the boys who are in my hospital are grateful for those questioning the war..BUT...

they all despise Cindy Sheehan...would respect her more if she didn't use her son constantly as antiwar protests. He was a man..not a child and reupped for 2nd time. He wanted to be there...and they feel she is disrespecting him.

[SofaKingLiberal]

1. Who has the butter?

:popcorn:

[XemaSab]

2. Here's some

:popcorn:

[Lex]

3. But his mother's grief and questions about the war are *hers*

not his, or anyone else's for that matter.

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[uppityperson]

4. Everyone has an opinion, based on what they think they would do.

We are each individuals, doing what we think we must for reasons that make sense to each of us.

[scot]

9. Wisdom, I say, wisdom.!

[noamnety]

6. The veterans I know show their hatred of her

by giving her giant bear hugs whenever they see her. :)

[peacetheonlyway]

7. until they risk arrest

and have their lives monitored and get followed by CIA everywhere and get physically abused
while staging peaceful demonstrations...

they have no right to criticize one tiny little aspect of cindy's life...

the doer is always better than the critic..

it's one thing to blindly follow your country down a piss ass crazy killing spree
yes, soldiers have responsibility, at any moment they can say I've had enough of this shit
like Kevin benderman and ask to be a conscientious objector... Benderman is a true hero and so is Cindy....

but if these soldiers are so brave, they could start an inside mutiny of the soldiers.. moreso than cry about her...
she's done nothing to a single soldier last time I checked.

and her reminiscences of his childhood show to me how beloved she was of her son... if it makes her able to stand up as our ONLY SERIOUS LEADER during this crazy war, consistently begging to bring home the troops, she can talk about her son's childhood all she wants...

screw anybody that doesn't think cindy is America's Ghandi..

the history books will write about her heroism... I don't have to....

[northofdenali]

8. Mothers have always been at the forefront of anti-war

sentiment. If your cousin knew that, he might look at this circumstance differently. In the meantime....


:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[cali]

10. Not meant as a knock against Cindy

but I wish we had more prominent anti-war leaders, like Rev. Coffin.

[Kurovski]

11. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and as far as Sheehan

is concerned I think her focus is: the sooner she gets them all back home, the better.

Ain't nothin' that big comes easy, or without a big to-do.

My question is, did Casey Sheehan know that the Bush administration lied him to Iraq? would that change a person's opinion of how Sheehan is showing "disrespect"? It seems to me the disrespect and misuse of the troops by Bush himself is what real disrespct looks like. Have your cousin ask the troops about all the lies.

In a way, and on one level, it's almost as if Cindy is "avenging" the death of her son. Didn't the troops think they were avenging the actions of 9/11 in Iraq? Turns out that wasn't so...just a big lie.

[Hissyspit]

12. They DESPISE Cindy Sheehan?

A little displacement going on maybe?

When was the last time Cindy Sheehan got anyone killed over LIES.

[Libby2]

13. Too bad.

Your child is always your child.
So it's okay for her to protest the war?
But not protest that her son died in this war?
What a bunch of freaking hoooey.

[rasputin1952]

14. It should be understood that the military way of thinking is quite

different from what one comes across in civilian life. When we suffer the loss of one of our own, it always is seen as a "family" situation. Those of us that have served know that we have lost a brother/sister in arms, and essentially, we are torn between the loss and and why the person was lost. We go into situations that others are fleeing from, we understand that any of us could fall from any of a number of reasons...it is the common thread of survival that keeps us going. While Sheehan's son is seen as a fallen comrade to the soldiers he not only knew, but to the entire Army as well, none of the other soldiers desire the same fate.

Just like the retired generals coming out against Rumsfeld, those that are still active, while they despise what is happening in war plans, they are duty bound to maintain the decorum. Smedley Butler, awarded 2 Medals of Honor, and Commandant of the USMC KNEW his Marines were being sacrificed during the "Banana Wars" to boost profits for Dole and other companies. He did not speak out until he retired. Butler's speeches ring true today, just as they did in the 1920's/'30's. "War is a Racket", is a brilliant treatise on why we often go to war...corporate ties and expansion.

It is wise to understand that many senior officers during the Vietnam era also believed the war was essentially un-winnable the way it was being fought; but because of precedent and a sense of duty and honor, the did not speak out publicly while they were still in the military. MacArthur was the last General still in uniform to lash out against a sitting administration....but then again, MacArthur thought he was a demi-god. He broke a tradition, and while people think he was a brilliant general, (:eyes: he failed more often than succeeded), they thought his public lashing of the Truman Administration was exceptionally inappropriate.