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AGENDA21 Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:14 AM
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Time is running out for Iran on nuke issue: US
The US does not intend to wait for months for an agreement in the UN Security Council on action over Iran's nuclear ambitions, the State Department said.

"This issue is too important to be hung up for months or years in the Security Council," US Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns said in Washington on Friday after returning from a trip to Moscow for talks over Iran.

Burns held out the possibility that countries could take independent action if the 15-member Security Council failed to reach agreement.

"Those that might prevent the Security Council from acting effectively need to understand that the international community has to find a way -- and will find a way -- to express our displeasure with the Iranians," Burns said.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1680790,00050001.htm
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:16 AM
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1. Yeah we have an election coming up.
So we can't actually wait for the international community to go through the motions of a deliberate evaluation of Iran's nuclear program, we have to get our war on by the end of the summer at the latest.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:16 AM
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2. TIME RUNNING OUT FOR AMERICAN PEOPLE
Chimp going to fart a big bad one this time
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AGENDA21 Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:18 AM
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3. They rushed into the iraq war
and it seems they're going to do the same thing with iran!!!!!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:44 AM
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5. This one be bad
Very bad
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:44 AM
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6. Iraq Redux. Take any saber-rattling press release about Iraq and
replace the country's name with "Iran".
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:54 AM
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7. How long was it between this sort of rhetoric and attack in Iraq?
My incliniation is to say it was 6-8 weeks but it might have been longer.


Of course the issue is always timing the entire operation to take advantage of seasonal weather.


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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:39 AM
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4. "Express our displeasure"
I suppose that means nuking them into oblivion.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:33 AM
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8. Fishing for a Pretext in Iran

by Juan Cole; March 18, 2006

link: http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=9929

snip:"Supreme Jurisprudent Ali Khamenei has given a fatwa or formal religious ruling against nuclear weapons, and President Ahmadinejad at his inauguration denounced such arms and committed Iran to remaining a nonnuclear weapons state. (Note: Grand Ayatollah Khamenei is the Chief of State and He ALONE has the final say in matters of the Iranian state and the final religious authority over the vast overwhelming majority of Iranian Shiites.)

snip:"Tehran denies having military labs aiming for a bomb, and in November of 2003 the IAEA formally announced that it could find no proof of such a weapons program."

snip:"it is often alleged that since Iran harbors the desire to “destroy” Israel, it must not be allowed to have the bomb. Ahmadinejad has gone blue in the face denouncing the immorality of any mass extermination of innocent civilians, but has been unable to get a hearing in the English-language press. Moreover, the presidency is a very weak post in Iran, and the president is not commander of the armed forces and has no control over nuclear policy"

snip: "in November of 2003 the IAEA formally announced that it could find no proof of such a weapons program. The U.S. reaction was a blustery incredulity, which is not actually an argument or proof in its own right, however good U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton is at bunching his eyebrows and glaring."
snip:"Supreme Jurisprudent Ali Khamenei has given a fatwa or formal religious ruling against nuclear weapons, and President Ahmadinejad at his inauguration denounced such arms "


http://www.dontattackiran.org

Supreme Iranian leader – Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is the Chief of State and He ALONE has the final say in matters of the Iranian state and the final religious authority over the vast overwhelming majority of Iranian Shiites.

Here is an official website that explains the Iranian government:

link: http://www.parstimes.com/gov_iran.html

In the Iranian system the elected parliament and president have limited powers. By far the single most powerful person is Chief of State Supreme Leader Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. He has the final say. No other mullah, ayatollah or marja’a can override Ayatollah Khamanei’s fatwa. It is irrevocable. In addition to his political position--within the Shiite version of Islam he is what is known as a marja'a. Ayatollah Sistani in Iraq is also a a marja'a. A fatwa is a final religious decision absolutely binding on all Shiites within that marja'a's domain. All fatwas issued by a maja'a are written down and publicly announced. They carry almost as much weight as sacred scripture.

Ayatollah Khamenei issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons last August. Even if other mullahs or ayatollahs would disagree or make a contrary declaration - Ayatollah Khamanei's decision would override them and would be the final word in matters of the Iranian state and to any Shiite believers within Ayatollah Khamenei's domain which would include almost all Iranian Shiites.


Iran-Nuclear-Statement
Iran is a nuclear fuel cycle technology holder, a capability which is exclusively for peaceful purposes, a statement issued by the Islamic republic at the emergency meeting of the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) read here Tuesday evening.

The Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has issued the Fatwa that the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islam and that Iran shall never acquire these weapons, it added.

For the statement regarding Ayatollah Khamanei's fatwa which comes from the website of the Islamic Republic of Iran - link:

http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0508104135124631.htm



http://www.dontattackiran.org




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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:48 AM
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9. the headline is panicky in the extreme. The State Dept. is ...
unhappy with the timescale but they have a history of breathless reports of the imminent threat from the latest demonised quarter.

They have no credibilty while Dr. Rice is in charge, she is not an orientalist and might better employ her talents gently leaning on Russia and persuading them to see things the same way as the US.

The Rovian style has proved disastrous when it comes to running a country, determining elections or serious political debate. It is even less effective as the language of diplomacy.

It is not even crisis mismanagement, characteristic of the Bush regime, this is reaction to an imagined threat.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:03 AM
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10. speaking of panicky in the extreme
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