Spawn of the Whore of Babylon?

[Seabiscuit]

Yesterday my wife was telling me about listening to Air America's Randi Rhodes talking about finally reading a book about GWB that revealed something new she didn't know.

According to Randi, the book disclosed that GWB had a younger sister (about 2 years younger) who had some disease, and that when GWB was 7 years old, his sister died.

Surely, he must at some times in his life have had some memory of his sister, despite his parents' best efforts to erase her from his memory.

Babs and GHWB never told little Georgie his sister had died.

Not only that, they never held a funeral for Georgie's little sister.

Even worse, on the day she died, Babs and GHWB went golfing.

No wonder GWB has "issues".

Excuse me, Babs, if I don't forgive you.

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. She had Leukemia.

Kitty's book on them goes into detail on it. And they did go golfing...but then, she wasn't a fetus anymore. :hi:

[Seabiscuit]

2. That's right. It was leukemia.

[Smarmie Doofus]

5. Now *that's* uncalled for ; *true*, but uncalled for. n/t

[Smarmie Doofus]

3. "Bush on the Couch" by Justin Frank n/t

[Seabiscuit]

4. Thanks. That was the book she mentioned.

[azurnoir]

6. It's been my observation

that the very wealthy and powerful tend to also be "Darwinian" in the coldest sense of the word when it comes to their own families. Those who suffer from childhood diseases (especially if genetic) are defective and I won't say mistreated, but always kept "secret" and distanced, their death is not viewed as tragic or a loss.

[Seabiscuit]

7. Isn't it ironic that the very people who reject the valid science of

Darwinism embrace the pseudoscience of Social Darwinism?

[don954]

8. Thats just f&cked up

what type of family doews that??!! Everyone in my house agrees, in a fscked up scale, thats a 10..!

[leftofthedial]

9. sociopaths

now watch me drive

[KyndCulture]

10. Her name was Robin.

All that is true, what Randi was talking about.

[BreweryYardRat]

11. Jesus...

That's disgusting. Hell, that's not disgusting, that's inhuman.

[Jim Warren]

15. Inhuman?

Exactly.

[Kerrytravelers]

12. After watching poppy and let-'em-drown babs, I'm not surprised.

Not one bit.

[dogday]

13. How in the hell do parents go golfing

the day their child dies???? I would not be able to concentrate on anything and certainly would not be out on the golf course... These are sick MF's, no doubt about it.....

[Seabiscuit]

16. The conversation between Babs and GHWB probably went something

like this:

GHWB: "Well, Babs, we won't have messy little missy to clean up after any more. She just died."

Babs: "Ding dong, the witch is dead."

GHWB: "Why don't we celebrate."

Babs: "Yeah, I know... we could go golfing."

GHWB: "Yeah, and you can watch my drive."

Babs: "And you can watch me drink in the clubhouse after you win again."

Both: "Let's DO it!"

[dogday]

17. It almost makes you feel sorry for

Bush----NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

[Seabiscuit]

26. They taught Georgie to drink and drive...

Poppy: "Babs, now watch this drive"

Babs: "Now watch me down this drink."

Georgie just got them a little mixed up.

[Vidar]

14. A family of monsters.

[Red_Viking]

18. I heard something else about this...

I agree, it's sad. George was definitely affected by his sister's death, but wasn't allowed to mourn. I believe they did tell him, the whole family knew, but they didn't have a funeral and did actually go golfing.

When he was in elementary school, a couple of years after Robin's death, * wrote an essay about her and how sad he was when she died and how he missed her. He got a good grade, and brought it home to show Babs the Battleax. Her beautiful mind overloaded. She scolded him and lectured him about not revealing any family business to outsiders. That included telling other kids at school he was sad his sister died. Apparently emotion wasn't allowed in their house.

No wonder they're all sociopaths.


Peace,

RV

[mark11727]

20. Or as Dr Lecter would've said...

"...Our Billy wasn't born a killer, Clarice. Oh no, he was made one through years of systematic abuse."

[dogday]

21. Ok, now you have me scared......................nt

[Seabiscuit]

24. The perfect quote for the occasion.

[LibDemAlways]

19. The author also talked about

chimp's fraternity days when he participated in a ritual of branding new pledges on the ass, and then laughed it off as "a cigarette burn. So what?" That story made the NY Times back in 1967 when an investigation was launched. He's a sadistic SOB going way back, and Dr. Frank thinks Abu Gharib is just another manifestation of it. Look at how the RW tried to laugh off those photos as "no worse than a fraternity prank." Where do you suppose they came up with that rationalization?

Chimp belongs in a psychiatric ward. No way should the GOP have ever foisted him on the American public.

[HamdenRice]

22. There was no funeral because Robin's body was donated to science

The gossip writer, Kitty Kelly, actually wrote a very good book about the Bush family, and discussed this incident at length. Bush was not told that Robin was sick until the day she died. There was no funeral and the "carcass" was given to science, which usually means, meat for the first year medical students' carving table for Anatomy 101.

If I remember correctly, Bush also tried to write about how he felt about this during prep school. He got a terrible grade, and the teacher focused on how terrible his spelling and grammer were rather than on the substance of what he was trying to say.

As much as I despise him and hold him responsible for the catastrophes he has created, you have to admit he had a really fu**ed-up upbringing.

[Seabiscuit]

25. Who needs a body to have a funeral?

Babs and Poppy could have held a memorial funeral but didn't.

[dogday]

30. I know--- the funeral is to celebrate the

life they had and remember the person...

[WinkyDink]

35. Was the donation tax-deductible?

They saved money on no funeral, too.

Keeping Minds Beautiful, One Ignored Death at a Time.

[Atman]

23. Why should Babs and Poppy have troubled their beautiful minds?

The child was clearly defective. Missing a day on the links wouldn't have saved her.

Now watch me hit this drive.

[Seabiscuit]

27. Imagine what a chapter on Georgie's friend Dickie would have been like:

Babs: "You know, Poppy, Georgie's little friend Dickie sure likes to aim at birds with his little pop gun."

Poppy: "I know, Babs, but Dickie's starting to shoot that cork right at Georgie's head. I don't know how many times he's popped his noggin by now."

Babs: "Dickie will always be number 2 in my book."

[Skittles]

28. the Bushes were given bad adivce about how to handle the death

of their daughter; they were advised to carry on as normal. Do not ever, ever gauge the measure of a person's grief though, you just cannot do it. This is, however, the only incident in GWB's life I have extreme sympathy for.

[Seabiscuit]

29. Does the book actually say

that someone gave them advice about their daughter's death? If so, who?

And did that someone tell them not to have a funeral, or just to "carry on as normal" and the Bushes interpreted "normal" as refusing to honor their daughter with a funeral/playing golf when someone dies?

I have no sympathy for GWB's parents on this one.

[Skittles]

31. it was in Hatfield's book I believe

I dislike bush's parents extremely but I dislike people trying to assess anyone's grief even more - you have no idea how people handle their grief. They just might be the sociopath pieces of shit it makes them appear to be but it might not because people handle grief in extremely different ways and denial is one way.

[Seabiscuit]

32. I suppose I completely overlooked the notion of grief in this case.

Perhaps because I saw no evidence of it. Or of any other human emotion for that matter.

[Skittles]

38. more info

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=21590

[Seabiscuit]

39. That tells a very different story, and

omits the parts mentioned on the Randi Rhodes show (except it says: "There was no funeral, as the Bush's had signed papers giving Robin's body to research hoping that a cure could be found for such a horrible disease.")

I still don't see any causal link between giving a body to research and having no funeral.

[Skittles]

40. not everyone sees the need for a funeral

I have only been to one in my life - my brother's. But certainly some sort of service should have been held for her siblings; not acknowledging her death was hugely damaging to her siblings.

When I was a kid in England, my grandmother used to clean the grave of a girl named Beryl who wsas killed in an air raiid during WWII at age 11. I used to see Beryl's mother walk past the church on the road, and she never even looked over. Why can't she do this, I asked my grandmother. Grandma said she can't, she just can't. I was disturbed by this, I felt she didn't care about her daughter. When that lady died over 60 years after Beryl did, a faded picture of Beryl was found in her purse, she had carried it with her for over six decades. And her last words were, I will see my baby girl again. It taught me a lesson that you can never really know what is in a person's heart.

[Seabiscuit]

41. I respect your personal experiences.

But you kind of took the words out of my mouth when you said: "But certainly some sort of service should have been held for her siblings; not acknowledging her death was hugely damaging to her siblings."

That spells out the essence of my shock at the Bushes in choosing not to have some sort of funereal service to honor their daughter's memory. It need not be a "burial" service - I for one, would like my wife and children to attend a funeral service for me even though my wish is to be cremated and the ashes divided among my wife and children for later disposal in any way they find significant in their lives.

The playing golf the day she died story just seemed frosty - I don't know if it's true or not, but if so, that's rather bone chilling.

[WinkyDink]

36. Who but psychopaths need ADVICE on "how" to grieve? Did they not FEEL?

[frankly_fedup2]

33. Wasn't she older then Dumbya? She was first born then Dumbya?

Not sure just asking?

[Seabiscuit]

34. I really don't know - I haven't read the book.

What I heard was triple hearsay.

[jbnow]

37. As someone noted above

it's noted there was no funeral because the body was donated...but I don't see the connection. There is still a service when bodies are donated or cremated. There could have been one later when she was buried.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=21590
There was no funeral, as the Bush's had signed papers giving Robin's body to research hoping that a cure could be found for such a horrible disease.

The picture in that link shows a beautiful little girl. Given name was Pauline Robinson Bush, they called her Robin.

But this link talks some about the family at the time, bush not being told she was dying or learning about her death until two days later.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072699.htm
Tragedy Created Bush Mother-Son Bond

It also talks about bush becoming a clown to cheer up his mom after the death.

Who knows what's true. But the illness and/or death of a child is about as bad as it gets. Maybe that's part of what got babs so strange. george was 7, jeb a baby and you have to go on but the grief must be unbearable.

[Rosemary2205]

42. Babs lost her only daughter?

Sorry, but even a piece of sh*t like Babs had to feel grief.