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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:12 PM
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The picture I want every (Army, Navy, AF) military academy cadet to ponder




The bravest act and, in_deed greatest service they could ever perform for America is to demand Bush and Cheney resign.


Never Forget: George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq.
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:14 PM
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1. Thanks for the reminder of what courage looks like.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:11 AM
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20. Here's the VIDEO of it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ

Best. Protester. Ever.
:patriot:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:15 PM
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2. We had our mini version of T Square at Stanford yesterday!
I'm sooooooo proud of those students!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:16 PM
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3. So am I.
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 07:23 PM by understandinglife




Protesters block president at Stanford

Throngs of protesters at Stanford University blocked the road to Hoover Institution, thwarting President George W. Bush's visit to Hoover late Friday afternoon.

The president was instead taken to the campus home of former Secretary of State George Shultz, according to reports.

Protesters jammed the street, some sitting on the ground. A fire truck made an attempt to open the street around 4:30 p.m. by creating a ruse: telling protesters they needed to get to a fire.

Group didn't buy the excuse refused to leave.

"F--- you," a frustrated fireman shouted at the crowd.

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/show_story.php?id=2740


Well done.


Peace.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:31 PM
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10. Oh! WOW!!!
:wow: I am moved!!!
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 01:18 AM
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18. That is awesome!!
Way to go Stanford protesters!!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:17 PM
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4. He also willfully deceived and tricked civilians, soldiers and congress.
Betrayal of the worst kind.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:19 PM
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5. This was one of the greatest acts of Civil Disobedience and Bravery
in my lifetime.

Thank you for posting this.

And this: "Never Forget: George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq."

TC
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:20 PM
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6. If you were the guy driving that first tank...
what do you think Bush would order you to do to do?

Is that an army you'd want to enlist in?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:29 PM
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7. Ah, yes. Two questions very much worthy of consideration.
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 07:29 PM by understandinglife
We know what the gutless bike rider would order and it is now clear that any American actually serving their oath of office - be it military or civilian - have only one legitimate choice: demand Bush, Cheney and their fellow criminals resign and ensure that they are prosecuted for all the laws they have violated.


Peace.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:57 PM
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8. The picture would be different, bloody different.
x(
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 01:19 AM
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19. There is no question in my mind what Bush would order the tank
driver to do -- keep driving!!

We all know what value our pResident puts on human life.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:23 AM
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 03:12 PM
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30. And because Rush Limbaugh was spewing nonsense like that...
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 03:12 PM by IanDB1




This is what we got.

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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:26 PM
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9. K&R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:40 PM
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11. Recommended. They need to keep this in mind for another reason.
Just in case * is foolish enough to try and send them into the street against the people.

The Potemkin mutiny would be nothing compared to the reaction to that order by the
collapsing regime.

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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:47 PM
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12. They are close to that now.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:21 PM
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15. Thanks, that's quite an article. Debate is good.
The Roman army encouraged it at times and and during certain periods, the "grunts" had a large
say in the exploits of Rome.

Our officer corps can learn a great deal from this. That any of them are openly discussing this
is simply outstanding. This is about their country and also their lives. They should debate.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:37 AM
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25. Amazing, thanks!!!! n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:32 AM
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29. "'We cannot do this mission.' They confused the cultural can-do attitude
... with their responsibilities as leaders to delay the start of the war until we had an adequate force. I think the backlash against the general officers will be seen in the resignation of officers" ..."

Thank you for the link to the NY Times article. I suspect Bush and Cheney will not be in office much longer.


Peace.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:52 PM
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13. bttft
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:09 PM
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14. For those who may have not seen the video..
The tank moves from left to right, trying to go around the guy. The guy moves in front of the tank whenever it moved. The video will give you chills.

I was 17yo when Tiennamen Square happened. I was shocked the other day to find someone not that much younger than me (maybe 10 years) who didn't know anything about it. We must not forget.

Who saw "Tank Man" on Frontline a week or so ago? It was most excellent!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:15 AM
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21. Here it is (the video)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ

The human spirit will never be crushed.

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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:08 PM
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24. He also climbs up onto the tank and
seems to be trying to talk to the people inside. Very brave indeed.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:51 PM
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16. We Do Not Consent
Dedicated to conscientious objectors everywhere.

We Do Not Consent, the new GuvWurld online book, with Foreword by DUer Land Shark (free .pdf download).
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 12:29 AM
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17. Thank you for posting the link to your book in this thread.
:thumbsup:


Peace.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 09:05 AM
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22. have never looked at this photo and not been moved to tears...ever..
what ever happened to him?
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:38 AM
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23. According to Mike Malloy....
He was arrested and executed days later.

Still, he made the most powerful statement of the century. Not a bad way to use your life.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:43 AM
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26. I've also read that nobody knows for sure who he was
I prefer to believe that story, just because it makes me feel better.

This link goes to answers.com:
http://tinyurl.com/ppl56
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 04:04 AM
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27. Very brave guy
Can't help thinking what would have happened to him if it was an Israeli tank driver and not a Chinese one.
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