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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:30 PM
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OMFG: the" "BLEEDING" edge of technology," yes he said it.
CNET news reported he said it.

"The most important thing, in my judgment, to keep America competitive,

is for the U.S. to remain at the bleeding edge of technology,"

Bush said, adding that it made sense for the federal government to fund research and development to "ensure the U.S. remains the innovation center of the world."

Bush shows support for tech industry:http://news.com.com/2100-1008_3-6063976.html?part=rss&tag=6063976&subj=news



This is the RSS news feed I got and haven't changed a thing:


On a visit to Silicon Valley, president emphasizes need to keep U.S. on "bleeding edge" of technology. Read more…
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:31 PM
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1. Freudian slip?
hmmmmm
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:37 PM
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7. Yes, it was mentioned today by those that heard him he sounded drunk or
hung-over.

CNET is normally a little conservative and late on tech news but this was in their feed
and they would of been there....we need the audio or video.

Yes I think it was a freudian mistake
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:32 PM
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2. I've always said that, only I was joking.
I doubt he knows the difference. Bleeding, leading, it's all the same to him since he does neither.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:33 PM
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3. He is such an idiot. n/t
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:33 PM
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4. Please tell me you made that up.
I hear this stuff and I want to throw crockery.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:33 PM
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5. This from Wikipedia...
Bleeding edge
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In computer science, bleeding edge is a term that refers to technology that is so new (and thus, presumably, not perfected) that the user is required to risk reductions in stability and productivity in order to use it. It also refers to the nature of the latest technology to be extremely expensive.

The term is formed as an allusion to "leading edge" and its synonym cutting edge, but implying a greater degree of risk: the "bleeding edge" is in front of the "cutting edge". A technology may be considered bleeding edge under the following conditions:

* Lack of consensus — competing ways of doing some new thing exist and no one really knows for sure which way the market is going to go.

* Lack of knowledge — organizations are trying to implement a new technology or product that the trade journals haven't even started talking about yet, either pro or con.

* Industry resistance to change — trade journals and industry leaders have spoken against a new technology or product but some organizations are trying to implement it anyway because they are convinced it is technically superior.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:35 PM
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6. I haven't heard that for 8 or 9 years.
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 08:38 PM by igil
My supervisor's boss used it, and we picked it up in the computer lab.

I've used it since then, of course. Not to refer to the newest and greatest, but the so-new-it's-dangerous-to-commit-to-it kind of new.

On edit: You can't deduce that a word or phrase is a *ism and therefore a loony-toons expression just because you haven't heard it before. That's 'abductive reasoning'--the fact may be consistent with the apparent conclusion, but the fact doesn't require the conclusion. Abduction's cool for forming hypotheses ... not much else. Unless you're a historical linguist.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:37 PM
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8. There are no more words...........
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:44 PM
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9. Pardon the heresy ...

But why is this strange?

If he has an even moderately competent speech writer to put words in front of him, that writer would use phrases like "bleeding edge" when writing for a tech crowd. It's a rather common phrase, especially in the Valley.

I'm not suggesting he's the least bit in touch with reality here, but SV people like to think of themselves as on the bleeding edge, whether they are or not. It's a buzz phrase.

I feel like I'm missing an obvious joke or something.

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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:51 PM
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11. I have never heard the term used as if it was a good thing
It is usually used with sarcasm and depreciation.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:11 PM
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15. Interesting ...

Well, I usually see it used with a note of caution, as in an "only for experts" sort of thing, but in the circles I run "the bleeding edge" is synonymous with "cutting edge" and usually used as the standard of where we want to go.

I'm pretty sure the audience to whom he was directing his remarks understood that.

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:55 PM
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13. Hadn't heard of the idiom, still I would rather have the pResident explain
the term to us common folks,
which could be even more revealing of what the term means to him.

I mean that in all sincerity, I would love to have a reporter ask him what the term means
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:13 PM
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16. Understood ...

But, he was speaking to a specific kind of audience. If he'd used that term in a SOTU speech, I'd find it weird...

Oh, hell...this makes me feel dirty. I am not going to defend the bastard.

It just caught me as the kind of thing I'd use if writing for a tech audience, so I was confused. Anyway ... I shut up now. I now understand what the problem you perceived was, and that's enough.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:50 PM
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10. He's refering to his 'roids. He's been sittin on his tail doing nothing
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 08:51 PM by Democrats_win
for over 5 years, other than lying and leakin' so now he's on the bleeding edge of his roids trying to look like he's going to fix the biggest domestic threat since the 70s. We could have done better. We could have conserved, we could have had CAFE standards. Now we have shortages, outrageous prices. Just like Nixon.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:52 PM
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12. Um, that's a bonafide term.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:10 PM
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14. Yes it is. But in the context of his speech, though, I'm pretty
sure "leading edge" would have been much more approriate. At least on the East Coast, bleeding edge is used as a sort of sarcastic jab at early adopters, i.e., folks who pay the highest cost to have the newest gizmo, or alpha testers of software.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:14 PM
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17. Maybe - faith in what gw passes off as a vocabulary I have none...
(I love talking like yoda - lolol)

But nevertheless - there's nothing in the OP that confirms he fucked up in this instance. The implication I took away from the OP was that gw fucked up JUST BECAUSE he said "bleeding edge".

Jus sayin - if he fucked up, cool - I'll be the first and loudest to laugh - I just gotta see CLEARLY that it was a fuckup.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:37 PM
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19. Hmmmm
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:39 PM
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20. lol - never saw that comic before in my life - lolol
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:21 PM
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18. HIgh tech industries have used the 'bleeding edge'
for a very long time.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:15 PM
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21. Let's see. It's Saturday. Everyone in Texas, or everyone from
Texas, is getting tanked on margaritas, right?

Okay, inplausible explanation number dos:
Bush's conscience is getting the best of him and he is dreaming of the death and destruction he wreaks.
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