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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 10:15 AM
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American Workers Are Facing A Frightening Reality Heading Into The New Year

http://www.laborradio.org/Channels/Story.aspx?ID=1333693

12/26/2010
By Doug Cunningham

: “Think about this, the bottom 50 million workers – that’s one in three workers in America – you know what their average pay is? Six thousand dollars.”

The real picture of what’s happening to American workers, their wages, their jobs and their future prospects is frightening. And according to author and financial columnist David Cay Johnston the damage done is caused by tax, economic and trade policies that are systematically dismantling the working and middle classes in America. Johnston says data from the Social Security administration shows that from 1950-1980 income for the majority of workers at the base of our economy grew faster than any other segment. But when the Reagan revolution, and later George W. Bush, cut taxes for the wealthy worker wages took a dive. If Reagan’s policies had not been adopted, Johnston says, it would mean 20 grand a year more in your pocket.

: “The average wage in this country would be twenty thousand dollars a year higher. People would have four hundred dollars a week more income on average if we’d continued the policies we previously had and all else had been equal.”

Johnston says a reversal of the Reagan and Bush tax and economic policies would be a very good thing for jobs creation and worker wages.

: “When we had high taxes we had economic growth. When we had high taxes we had higher wages. When we had high taxes we had more jobs, and job growth. And we need to recognize that we’ve been sold a bill of goods here that is discouraging economic growth, discouraging a growing number of jobs at home, that literally is subsidizing manufacturers to move jobs out of America and send them to China.”



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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 10:20 AM
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1. So what? Foie gras and splendid wines for bankers.


Why do you want the Palin for President? Are you a PUMA?
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 10:25 AM
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2. Explain : Palin for President? Are you a PUMA?
I didn't get any of that out of the article

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 10:32 AM
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5. It was sarcasm
Although given the way things are around here sometimes, I can understand the confusion...
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 10:25 AM
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3. Why bother with facts?
we all know tax cuts for the wealthy pigs gives us poor bastards a job
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 10:50 AM
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8. Yeah, damn straight! That's what's been going on for the last 30 years!
The unemployment rate now stands at somewhere between 9 and 10%. Just imagine where it would be if we didn't give trillions to the wealthy! It would be waaaaay higher, wouldn't it! :grr:

Wouldn't it? :(
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 10:28 AM
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4. Deficits and dropping wages are built into supply side
Quick, more supply side!!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 10:36 AM
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6. Why are wages more connected to taxes than to illegal immigration?
I don't understand this.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 10:38 AM
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7. Because taxes make up more than 20 percent of our economy
Illegal immigrants make up a far smaller percentage, probably well under 5 percent.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 11:15 AM
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10. But why would decreasing tax rates for the rich bring down wages?
Edited on Mon Dec-27-10 11:15 AM by dkf
What is the economic theory behind a direct connection?

I can make a case for less than minimum wages bringing down everyone elses wages. It's the same argument saying that raising the minimum wages brings up wages. What is the argument for tax cuts lowering wages?

I can see if real wages were steady then maybe the net benefit to workers stays the same, but beyond that it doesn't make sense to me in a cause and effect relationship.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 11:18 AM
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11. Because the wealthy take money *out* of the economy. (nt)
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 12:21 PM
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12. Because when the corporations (rich people) are taxed
higher, instead of paying higher taxes on profit, they hire more people and pay them more - so they don't have to pay taxes...the tax is only on the profit...not what is put back into the business (i.e.improvements, retooling, more employees and higher pay)which all are still listed as assets to the corp. therefore still on the books of net worth....

This also improves the demand side, since more people have more money to be consumers...more demand, more jobs...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:31 PM
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14. Corporations hire more people and raise their salaries to get a write-off?
Is that more than a 100% write-off because wouldn't anything less be a net negative?
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 02:48 PM
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15. No, they're listed on the asset side of their net worth
which increases their borrowing power just as much a having liquid assets, plus, there are usually tax breaks for improvements and hiring, when there are higher taxes...
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 12:24 PM
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13. I think you're right in the absence of any other factors
But a few things:

First off, if taxes on the rich get raised, taxes on someone else has to go up to maintain government. The wealthiest Americans have seen their total tax rate drop by two-thirds in the last 50 years. Tax rates on the middle class have doubled. (Let me know if you're interested and I can dig up the actual stats). So lowering taxes on the rich decreases the take-home pay of most of the rest of us.

In addition, tax policy plays an important role in making workers more or less valuable, and thus increasing or decreasing salaries. For example, tax policies that encourage offshoring work tend to cut wages.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-10 11:08 AM
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9. So we tax are way to prosperity.
more nicer roads more people working more people spending.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 05:46 PM
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16. So important, but never on lamestream media. It's as if working people ceased to exist with Reagan.
Thanks for the radio link and these posts, Omaha Steve.
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