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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 08:55 PM
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Uganda, anyone?
A friend is traveling to Kampala, Uganda in the next month (work/consultant related). The firm that hired him doesn't offer any sort of cultural orientation. I thought that was odd -- considering the importance of relationship building ... but I digress.

While researching the trip we've found good guidebooks etc. but very little information about specific cultural "does and don'ts". Have any DUers been through East Africa/Uganda in recent years?

We'd love to have a few first person accounts of Uganda to augment our research.

Thanks in advance! :hi:
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 09:29 PM
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1. Have you tried Lonely Planet?
Their guide books usually have sections on cultural things, what to wear, how to act, taboos, etc. :)

It sounds like your friend is getting a wonderful opportunity!! :hi:

dg
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:29 PM
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3. Lonely Planet is great!
LP produces an "East Africa" guide which includes Uganda but our local travel bookstore ( http://www.getlostbooks.com/p_home.html ) didn't haven't in stock. Thanks for the reminder. :thumbsup:
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:52 PM
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2. I can put you in touch with a couple who travels
to Uganda frequently...to see their daughter, who runs the Hope House orphanage there. They are repubs, but nice repubs. They would be up on the local customs, traveling tips, etc., or would answer questions for you. Just don't mention politics! Let me know.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:35 PM
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4. Thank you!
Fortunately, someone from the work site has been in contact with my friend. The biggest concerns were addressed. I appreciate your kind offer very much. :)
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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 06:08 PM
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5. The little I know about Uganda
is not good. I've been told, first hand, that it's dangerous to travel there.

FYI, here is a public announcement posted on the website of the U.S. Department of State.

I would love to hear from DUers that have actually traveled there. Perhaps my perception is wrong.

:hi:
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 07:15 PM
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7. Thanks for the heads-up!
Hopefully, the LRA won't be an issue on this trip. I'd be happy to pass on a few stories to you as my friend forwards email -- he'll be spending most of his time in Kampala.

Nice to bump into you here! Thanks again. :hi:
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chascaz Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 05:53 PM
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6. Hey, I just got back from Uganda about a week ago...
I've been 3 times now, all in the past 3 years. I go there for work, occasionally. I work on the Global Seismic Network (http://www.iris.washington.edu/about/GSN/index.htm), and we have a station just outside of a town called Mbarara.

I have found the people to be very nice to me, but then I'm not an "Ugly Repugnican American" type. I tend to bring gifts for the people I work with there, and stuff for the kids. Generally, everyone is very nice to me, but the streets of Kampala can be kinda rough (as in any big city). As someone who goes there to work, I see things a little differently than most travellers. This last trip, I did "lose" $200 and a digital camera. I blame myself, I should have kept better tabs on those things, so do be wary, and safeguard your valuables.

Most travellers to Uganda will be going on a "safari", a paid tour guided thing. I have only once been to Queen Elizabeth National Park... Incredible wildlife and all, but also a very nice resort hotel to stay at (I ate lunch there). I've seen westerners at the hotels in Entebbe and Kampala, getting together with their tour groups and safari guides before hitting the road. I would imagine that anyone going on safari can expect alot of road travel, which can be dangerous. This last trip, I saw 2 overturned gasoline tankers on the highway back to Kampala.

Uganda, known as "The Pearl of Africa", is very beautiful, with rich soil. Everything grown there is organic. The avacados are HUGE, and delicious. The fried grasshoppers (when in season) are chewy, crunchy, salty, and gave me alot of gas. Be sure to try the local coffee at "Bancafe", if you get the chance. Most hotels will serve instant coffee, instead of the fresh ground Ugandan beans that you can get at Bancafe.

There is a book about Uganda entitled "The Pearl of Africa", i think it's by Hemingway???? I should read it myself, and recommend it to visitors, also "The Ugly American" is another good read for American travellers.

Being a former English colony, they speak a rather thickly accented english, when speaking to westerners, but most speak Lugandan or Swahili, or various dialects thereof between themselves. Sometimes I find it difficult to hear through the accent, but eventually I will get it.

Thank You - Wabele - "Way-buh-lay"

The Northern part of Uganda is very dangerous, near the Congo. Currently, they are going through some elections, and there may be some strife over that, but things should settle down before too long. There was some rioting in Kampala a few weeks ago, because the opposition candidate "Besigye" was thrown in jail by the current "President" Museveni.

On this last trip, I noticed a bunch of new "abstinence only" billboards, with USAID sponsorship on them. This is part of the bushista's faith-based foreign-AIDS policy. Uganda had been acclaimed for reducing the AIDS epidemic in the 90's because of their (former) all-inclusive anti-aids program which included condom use, education, and abstinence. Now that dumbya will only give them money if they comply with his abstinence only program, aids is back on the rise there. :(

Be sure to catch a glimpse of the (Entebbe) Imperial Hotel's welcome sign for "His Excellency - George W Bush - President of the U.S." It's so ridiculous. He spent all of 3 hours on the ground in Uganda, a couple of years ago. Just long enough to visit a nearby clinic, and never got more than 5 miles from the airport. When Clinton visited a few years ago, he was there for 3 daze, and visited numerous villages and aid programs. The sign is still up there.

Peace - :)

If I knew how to post a pic, I would put one up of Kampala... send me a mail if you would like some pictures.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-07-06 08:51 PM
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8. Wabele, chascaz. I'm reminded again of how amazing DU can be!
I'm always grateful to DUers who take the extra time to compose such an informative post. It really is a small world! :yourock:

My friend works in public health and will be based entirely in Kampala. Like you, he's not the ugly American type. I'd like to say more about the project but I'm always overly cautious about posting too much personal information on the internet. Fortunately, he received lots of good information about a week ago regarding the work site and the area of Kampala where he'll be staying.

Someone at the job site has ask my friend to bring along a shipment of art supplies for a nearby children's center. He's so happy to do it. I imagine he'll also stuff any available space in his luggage with stuffed toys, etc., too! I do have a question about gifts though. What kind of items are useful/appropriate/appreciated in Uganda for adults or coworkers? He's been puzzling over that for weeks now.

Thanks for the reminder about the northern borders - he's aware of the danger. I'll be sure to pass along a link to your post -- he may PM you about carrying cash (he post here at DU occasionally). Apparently, credit card fraud is rampant and ATM machines are rare.

If I have the opportunity to go, I'll be sure to visit Bancafe! BTW, when is grasshopper season? I wouldn't want to miss that! :)

Thanks again for all the information! I will send you a PM about the photos. :hi:



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chascaz Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 12:29 PM
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9. It's a small world, afterall...
Edited on Wed Feb-08-06 12:38 PM by chascaz
And it's getting smaller by the day. Anyway, I'm glad to be of some use around here. I've been "hanging out" here for over 7 years, and hardly have 100 posts to show for it.

Anyway, to answer your questions, and a little bit more about Uganda...

Carrying Cash:

I've been taking traveller's checks, but I'm finding that lowered exchange rates (vs. U$ cash) and "service fees" are excessive there. In Kampala there are numerous "forex" (foreign exchange) bureaus, which have competitive rates based on the national bank's rates. At hotels, you'll get lousy rates, though. In Kampala, there are ATMs, and I've been considering just using them the next time I go.

Gifts:
I've been trying to turn my Ugandan co-worker/friends onto Guacamole, so I've been sending them packets of guacamole mix, to go with their awesome avocados. It might be hard to find any "tortilla" chips there, though. They seem to like it, but "western food" can be too "rich" for their digestion. For the kids I like to bring crayons (64 pack w/sharpener), and small stuffed toys for the little ones. You can get drawing pads/art paper there, but I was surprised to find that the book store in Mbarara didn't have a single coloring book. For the adults, I have been asked, and delivered; cell phones, a laptop, laptop batteries, books, and for my "drivers", I gave them those FM converter thingys that you can plug your CD or MP3 player in, and it will play it out of your car stereo. They really liked that. I've heard that they get the 2nd rate stuff there, so if you buy a Sony walkman in Kampala, or a Motorola cell phone, it's likely going to be a "knock-off", or lower end model, not built to last. So, they like to get anything of the electronic gadget type that is "Made in America", as the quality is at least percieved to be better. They have a burgeoning middle class there, cell phones everywhere. If you get them any cell phones, they must be the kind with a sim card, that will work in the UK (They're on the same system as the UK), such "GSM" phones tend to be more expensive in the U.S., but I got a good deal on E-bay, and passed it on to my friend, Maxwell, with free delivery.

For the Traveller:

Mosquito net - I take my own. Some hotels have them already, the high-end resort hotels are well sealed, and they spray at night. I prefer to avoid the spray, and put up a net. While there are some very opulent resort/business class hotels such as the Sheraton, I found a much more reasonably priced, and closer to the local culture hotel in Kampala called the "Fairway Hotel", it's across from the golf course. The quality of the rooms is much lower (about like a motel 6 out here), but it's closer to the shops in town, not as insulated as the Sheraton. There's even a "Backpackers" in Kampala for the budget traveller. I suppose that your friend will have his accomodations taken care of by his host, though.

Like any developing country, Uganda's urban centers reek of motor scooter and diesel exhaust, so be prepared for that. Some people keep handkerchief's over their mouths. After a day in Kampala, you blow your nose, and it comes out black, as do the suds when you shampoo your hair. There are also many orphans and crippled beggars on the street, so if you've not been to the 3rd world before, be prepared to deal with that emotionally. Culturally, Kampala is very diverse. There are about 50/50 christian to muslims, i think. Some things are very westernized, others not so. There is at least one modern, multi-level mall, with "western" stores such as the GAP, etc. And there are the street markets and shops everywhere.

Bottled water only - should go without saying, but don't even rinse your toothbrush in the tap water, even if you're staying at the Sheraton, where they treat the water. At the Fairway, you'll notice that the tap water is a little bit brown, but at least there aren't any tiny worms in it.

Tabasco sauce - If you like your food to have flavor. The locals eat mostly staple foods - rice, matoke (like plantains), bananas, millet, grilled chicken and goat meat, etc. The English influence didn't add much flavor, either. At the hotels, you'll get steak (they have beautiful cattle there, huge horns), salads, soups, etc, basic western-style resort hotel fare, but eating out at the Sheraton can add up quickly. There are a few nicer restaurants in town, including a nice Chinese place near the Fairway Hotel. I've also been to an Irish Pub in Kampala, where alot (if not all) of the UK expats hang out, but I forget the name of it.

ON EDIT - There is a minority population of Indians there, many of the shop owners are Indian, and so you can find good curries and Indian food there. I'm sure your friend will have many stories to tell, how long will he be working there? My knowledge of Kampala is a bit limited, since I spend most of my time there in Mbarara, which is a small town, and things are a bit less hectic there than in Kampala City. I'd like to hear your friend's take on Kampala someday, I'm sure I'll find out a thing or two that I didn't know.

Have fun during your visit, I'd like to hear how it goes, and feel free to PM me for pics.

Peace - :)
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