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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:37 PM
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Perle: "I didn't hear statements to the effect that Iraq was responsible for 9/11."
 
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:46 PM
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1. the word is IMPLICATION
why don't you split hairs, neocon monster?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:48 PM
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2. Can you believe the man had the audacity to go to anti-war rally?
And spew this crap...
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:54 PM
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3. amazing!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:10 PM
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4. That's rich. The memory hole is not that deep or wide.
Just two quick examples of Perle himself (and he was not alone) from a Google search:

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/karon/article/0,9565,472023,00.html?cnn=yes

And invade-Iraq cheerleader Richard Perle, formerly head of Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board, wrote in his own blurb: "Laurie Myroie has amassed convincing evidence of Saddam Hussein's involvement in the first attempt to blow up the World Trade Center. If she is right — and there are simple ways to test her hypothesis — we would be justified in concluding that Saddam was probably involved in the September 11, 2001, attacks as well."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A32862-2003Sep5?language=printer

A number of nongovernment officials close to the Bush administration have made the link more directly. Richard N. Perle, who until recently was chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, long argued that there was Iraqi involvement, calling the evidence "overwhelming."
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:12 PM
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5. He did say resistance in Iraq would disappear" like a whiff of gunpowder"
so...why are we still listening to Richard Perle?
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4nic8em Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:59 PM
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7. Maybe
his reference was a bit skewed...I think he meant it more like "a fart in a tornado". Either way, it proves that he is still as full of shit now as he was then.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:16 PM
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6. Richard Perle can spin all he wants. He's still a liar.
It's hard to believe how loudly these same people screamed when President Clinton proved himself a master of equivocation. They certainly didn't hesitate to call Bill Clinton a liar for saying he didn't have sex with that woman. It all rested on a legalistic question of what sex is, or, as Clinton said, what the definition of is is.

In my book, that made Bill Clinton a liar. In my book, Richard Perle is no less a liar. However, Clinton's lies about love were a comma in the page of history, while the lies of Perle, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and others about war are of great moment.

Perle knows very well that not all the intelligence suggested that Saddam was in possession of WMDs, as Mr. Perle asserts. Evidence to the contrary was simply ignored and suppressed. In many arguments with Bush apologists over at the the website of The Nation, I would lay out the that Bush and his lieutenants are lairs. Those defending Bush would try to answer all the points except one. They would always ignore the charge that Doug Feith was manipulating intelligence in the Pentagon.

As for not hearing statements to the effect that Iraq was responsible for 9/11, Perle is technically correct. Statement by the regime spokesmen were carefully parsed to say "September 11" and "Saddam" in the same sentence, over and over again, leaving the impression that they were making that charge, when in fact they came just short of it. For example, in his letter of March 18, 2003 notifying Congress that military hostilities against Iraq had begun, Mr. Bush said:

(A)cting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

Nowhere does Mr. Bush say that his action is against al Qaida, just people like them. It doesn't say that Saddam had anything to do with the September 11 attacks, just that he has some kind of relationship with people like al Qaida, but not necessarily al Qaida.

If one goes back and read any statement by Bush or any of his aides and reads it, one will find that all of there statements contained the same careful parsing. Never is there a flat statement that Saddam is associated with al Qaida, which would have been that natural way to say if that what was meant. This kind of care in the use of language can only come with planning and discipline. It was planned to give people like Perle deniability years later. It is deliberate equivocation, deliberate deception. That the same careful language was used by so many at the same time to sell the public on a war whose justification rested on dubious assertions of facts that turned out to be universally false cannot be coincidence. It is conspiracy.

Where I come from, that kind of deception falls under the category of lying every bit as much as a blow job falls under the category of sex. Mr. Perle can only make that statement because he is relying on a unique definition of is.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:00 PM
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8. Perle, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Frum, Abrams are all liars of the 1st order...
playing upon american ignorance for the benefit of Israel; he knows full well the level of lies that were spun to get this snake-oil-game-show in gear and rolling...disgusting, it amazes me they can look themselves in the mirror and still shave the faces they see in them
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 04:04 AM
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9. quite the list of traitors
Edited on Sun Jan-21-07 04:08 AM by arewenotdemo
each deserves to be hung with an Israeli flag.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 05:59 PM
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10. Look at those dead eyes
Edited on Sun Jan-21-07 06:00 PM by mogster
He don't give a shit about the human sacrifice, he only think about himself and his political goals.

A Hermann Goering of modern age.
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corvusblog Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:33 AM
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11. Google "Project for the New American Century"
Google "Project for the New American Century"

Richard Perle is now trying to CYA, since he co-authored the Iraq War plans.
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FreeDemocrat Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 02:04 AM
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13. What part of stupid is it when the lie is self evident at the time.

Well duh, Biolabs need secure space, lest the pathogen escape and wipe out ones own side, much less the researchers themselves. They also require a controlled temperatures, and a clean environment, not only for safety but to keep the critters happy as well.

Lets see, 120 degree plus outside temperatures, check, dark brown canvas to keep the contents cool in the sun, not check, canvas sides as clean room siding, I don't think so, canvas tarps as level five pathogen security system, ROFL! :rofl:

And still to this day these things are trotted out as proof Saddam had WMD or planned to use them for such. They even had drawings showing the canvas when Powell gave his speech.


http://freedemocrat.blogspot.com/2006/04/stupider-than-screen-sided-submarines.html

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