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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:40 AM
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First Guantanamo Bay VIDEO Released
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXYrYTNo5n4
 
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:01 AM
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1. Seven years of pure naked sadism
and all I got was my civil rights sold down the river. Exxon, Halliburton and BP all seem to be doing pretty well however.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 11:04 AM
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2. "people do care about you"
yeah

some of us do. this made me weep.
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:35 AM
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24. me too ... so fucking wrong. k/r n/t *sob*
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 11:33 AM
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3. Is he moaning "help me" or "kill me" when they leave the room?
Can anyone tell?

This is so very deisturbing!
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:59 AM
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22. There was an article on Yahoo that described it as...
"Ya ummi, ya ummi" or "Ya ammi" ... which is Arabic for "My mother, my mother" or "Oh, mother, oh, mother". He was basically crying for his mother at the end there. :(
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 11:41 AM
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4. i need more information
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 11:42 AM by barbtries
who is being questioned? when was this? is there a place to go and get the details?

from the youtube page:
A video of a 16-year-old detainee being questioned at the US's Guantanamo Bay prison camp is made public for the first time.

The video was filmed secretly through an air duct.

http://davron.wordpress.com

It shows 16-year-old Omar Khadr being asked by Canadian officials in 2003 about events leading up to his capture by US forces, Canadian media have said.

The Canadian citizen is accused of throwing a grenade that killed a US soldier in Afghanistan in 2002.


more at the youtube page
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:47 PM
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14. "The video was filmed secretly through an air duct."...
They must have had three cameras then. How is it that there's three different angles from one airduct? :shrug:
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:17 PM
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5. I hope this bastard's son gets held and questioned for seven years
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 12:20 PM by sui generis
in fact I think the children of every politician, soldier and civilian who gives guantanamo a free pass should be rounded up and questioned for seven years.

I think I know now how some decent Germans felt in WWII.

I am hot with shame.

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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:54 PM
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15. No...
Even their children shouldn't be held accountable. They did nothing. They themselves should be held to account though. I feel your burn also. Every asshole that votes to allow this shit to go on should be rounded up and tried as accessories. :hi:
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:39 AM
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28. I was being rhetorical
:P

but seriously, how can they imagine that it is acceptable to do this to a child because of who they think his parents are? I want them to put on those shoes, imagine their child in custody for seven years not charged with a crime and subject to "interrogation", and imagine what they would feel towards any country that was punishing their child for the alleged sins of the father.

But yes, ultimately the responsibility lies with all of us. This is our country and these are our countrymen who somehow believe that the children of other men are less important, more expendable, than their own.

We have to own it before we can change it, we have to believe that it is wrong before we can make it right.

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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:52 PM
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6. Shameful. Disgusting.
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:56 PM
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7. Perfect example of the GOP. Thank you for posting. n/t
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:00 PM
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8. k
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:02 PM
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9. KnR for more visibility. Insane bastards. n/t
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:05 PM
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10. K/R
:kick:
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:06 PM
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11. Can't believe I'm SEEING this!
That is wrong on so many levels. :grr:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:28 PM
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12. K & R. I'm glad this story is (surprisingly) getting some MSM attention...
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 05:29 PM by ihavenobias
Unlike the story about how the torture methods we're using .
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 11:02 PM
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18. You mean the CIA torture methods developed TO ELICIT FALSE CONFESSIONS?
Gee, why would the CIA want false confessions I wonder?
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BrightVictor Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:38 AM
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21. Just not in the US
This story, and other similar stories, get huge play in the European media. The difference between the US and foreign news is really shocking.

For instance check out some of the Der Spiegel covers (scroll a little)
http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/2008/05/davids-medienkr.html
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:43 PM
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13. K&R
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 10:39 PM
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16. :"Relax and have a bite to eat."
That's all pro-GTMO people will see and hear. We treat our prisoners so well!

:puke:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 10:53 PM
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17. Here's a transcript if you're having trouble hearing it clearly.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 11:48 PM
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19. thanks gateley
I think this video clearly shows he's been mentally tortured and probably much much worse. He goes on about not having an eye and leg. When people have been f*cked with mentally or physically through torture or sexual abuse, they don't make sense sometimes. His crying kill me kill me kill me when they leave the room says a lot.

GOD help him regain his freedom and mental state, and I will be praying tonight for the torturers and the gov't who approved them (B*sh) to be found guilty of war crimes soon... I believe GOD will ultimately judge them, but I truly hope to see some accountability for there murder of over 500,000 Iraqi people for NO REASON OTHER THAN WAR PROFITS AND OIL!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 11:50 PM
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20. I hate feeling this way, but I really want them to suffer horribly themselves. nt
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 03:30 AM
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23. I don't blame you at all for feeling that way...
it's normal to want evil SOBs to face atonement...

I'd settle for impeachment and call it a day!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 12:12 PM
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29. Impeachment isn't enough -- I want pain and suffering!
:evilgrin:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:38 PM
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30. put it on video and give the proceeds to the families tortured & killed, and we have a deal! :) eom
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:12 AM
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25. The Right Will Have Fun With This...
Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 06:12 AM by theFrankFactor
More frat party fun. America has shit all over its self in response to 9-11. We had an opportunity to place ourselves on the World Stage as a nation different than China, Pakistan, Iran and the other freedom hating nations but instead we shit on the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Magna Carta, and the Geneva Conventions and asked China how to torture like they do.

Brilliant.
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Caradoc Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:43 AM
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26. Pathetic
Beyond shame. The interrogator has zero sympathy, and he's clearly not there to check on a Canadian citizen but to interrogate him. He made his mistake and deserves at the very least a fair trial, not these years of torture and limbo. I actually don't have a lot of sympathy save for the fact that, as a youth, he's been so badly used by all. His mother was on local television last night demanding Canada do something and while I do sympathize with her care and concern for her child, it is mitigated by the fact that she let him go to Afghanistan to fight in the first place at the age of 15. Methinks Canada was a flag of convenience for them. But the fact remains, he should have been repatriated long before now...this is inhumane treatment, and it's become a Canadian embarrassment.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 07:48 AM
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27. I don't have TV (since 1990). Is this video out on the airwaves?
I'm not holding my breath that M$M is beaming this into the hearts and minds of the 'Murkin public.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:39 PM
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31. our national disgrace
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