Powell on Fareed Zakaria - What's Wrong With Republicans

[kpete]

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[eilen]

1. I thought that was cogent, reasoned and an intelligent analysis

plus he dissed Rush!!!!!

[MindMatter]

8. And certain to be ignored by the GOP

Powell is dead right. Let's hope they continue ignoring him.

[DesertFlower]

2. i saw the interview.

it was great.

[sallyseven]

3. Fareed Zakaria is great

I watch him every week. He has intelligent people on most of the time. People who are sane and responsible. No screaming or yelling. I saw most of the programs he has had on and learned a lot. I did not see today's program but I do get excerpts if I miss some of the programs.

[Jennicut]

11. I love him. The one and only show I watch on Sunday because he does not

treat his audience like we are stupid and does not play gotcha games. Just reasoned intelligent conversation.

[RBInMaine]

4. If the Re-Thugs ever want to be viable again long term, they need to come into the mainstream,

they need, as he said, to stop running on hate and division, they need to stop being the party of, by, and for the fat rich greedy corporations, they need to stop being the party of arrogance and hate-filled dogma, they need to stop being the party of religious extremism, they need to stop being the party of fear over hope and anger over calm and thoughtfullness. I don't see their base doing that. Rush, Hannity, Howie Carr, and the rest of that "Hitler Youth" make too much money doing what they do to allow that to happen. They are losing the middle. They are losing the mainstream. They are dwindling down to the party of old deep south. It's quickly turning into the old, outdated, old-think, old-white-men-party of the past. However, the Dems need to play it SMART. They too can't go off on an ultra-left dogma ideological binge. We need to be a center-left party of mainstream innovation. There is nothing at all wrong with valuing traditions and the flag and religion and all that in a reasonable and inclusive way. America does remain mainly a moderate nation. The R's have lost the middle with their far right dogma. We need to learn that lesson and not make the same mistake.

[paulkienitz]

6. I hope to see a reasonable and thoughtful conservative party again

but I'm afraid it ain't really going to happen until a generation of haters who date back to Jim Crow times dies off. In the meantime the center-left may get a little too fat and hubristic, and if we aren't keeping our wits and consciences about us we could end up with a party full of Blagojeviches.

[trthnd4jstc]

5. Thanks for the Post. I do not get TV reception, so I duly appreciate this. n/t

[Juche]

7. Powell: "Theres nothing wrong with having socially conservative views"

I don't agree with that part. Fifty years ago social conservatives fought tooth and nail to keep black people out of schools and decent jobs. The only reason Colin Powell was able to become a 4 star general and secretary of state is because the social conservatives weren't strong or numerous enough to ensure the best he could hope for was to spend his life as a porter or a waiter.

If you are a social conservative who doesn't force his/her views on others that doesn't bother me. But they never keep it to themselves, they always have to force it on others. If they don't like gays they try to control their lives and deny them rights. If they don't like blacks they try to keep them out of schools. If they don't like atheism they try to pull down billboards that promote it. Social conservatism is inherietly at odds with liberal democracy because it is based on a narrow heirarchy where only a select few have meaningful rights and everyone else is either irrelevant or a deviant worthy of scorn and harassment.

There is something wrong with being a social conservative in a liberal democracy, just like there is something wrong with being a reliigous authoritarian in a liberal democracy. They can't let others live their lives as they see fit.

[eilen]

9. That is the sad comment on how social conservatism is

now viewed because it has been the racists and bigots that have set the tone. Colin Powell said in this interview that he is not conservative on social issues. He cited being educated through the City College system and living in a neighborhood, in a city in which there was a decent safety net available and was very happy to have that.

I guess my first statement -- In my estimation, someone who held socially conservative views would embrace the idea of marriage between same sex couples and actually be campaigning for it. It would be someone who would demand a restriction of divorce laws for cause--that they be litigated in cases of adultery but given in cases of documented abuse. It would be tougher on cases of corporate off-shoring as that degrades the fabric of economic integrity and personal pride/identity in communities and betrays the social contract-- requiring a tariff or something to sell the goods coming back into the country, and the responsible stewardship of the community's resources (budget)-- not spending more than is incoming and being judicious to save a bit for bad times. They would see to reward hard work and merit in the form of scholarships and grants to encourage hard-working intelligent young people to further their education and serve the public. Conservative values such as thrift, loyalty, industry, generosity/charity, discipline, and stewardship, doing one's part, etc. would be emphasized. However, the self-described social conservatives seem to look to demonize and discriminate and discourage the very things that to me were hallmarks of traditional conservative values (at least historically as portrayed in literature of more conservative times).

[Mr Rabble]

13. That is a very astute and articulate post.

These are classical liberal values that the conservative rhetoric likes to trumpet.

That these people are able to get away with this is really amazing.

[Sorceress]

10. I agree with you 100%. For the conservatives that are content to express their views but not

demand others to fall in line with their own beliefs, I have no beef. However, that it is a rare day to come across one of those types of conservatives. Conservatives want the world to look just like them and they can't deal when it doesn't. This is dangerous and not OK.

[Mr Rabble]

12. Thanks for the insightful commentary Cpt. Obvious...

Is this guy kidding?

Sounds like they are both reading from a bad script. Neither one of them has ever been right, and yet they are continually shoved down our throats as if they know what the hell they are talking about.

And the Mort Condrake story- wow.