Inhofe's Global Warming Denial On MSNBC

[babylonsister]

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[ErinBerin84]

1. Shuster was pretty good last night.

I also appreciated his disgust at Dick Cheney's "9/11 was the highest point in the past eight years" statement, and thought that the other panelists cut Dick WAY too must slack on this....heck, they were acting as if the question was "What moment gave you the most purpose?" etc....it's sad that everyone's so numbed to Dick's inanity that they couldn't point out the tone deafness of that answer in the least.

[bdamomma]

2. Inhofe is a hoax. They just never stop with their BS.

[Hulk]

4. And there were enough morons in OK to send him back.....

...what a total buffoon. Either the good people of OK are as dumb or dumber than he is, or there just isn't anybody else strong enough to take his place. Sad day in ok.

[plcdude]

3. There you go

I am so proud of my senator. Remember one of the children within the robe of the Spirit of Christmas Present? It is this guy.

Scrooge started back, appalled. Having them shown to him in this way, he tried to say they were fine children, but the words choked themselves, rather than be parties to a lie of such enormous magnitude.

'Spirit, are they yours?' Scrooge could say no more.

'They are Man's,' said the Spirit, looking down upon them. 'And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased. Deny it!' cried the Spirit, stretching out its hand towards the city. 'Slander those who tell it ye! Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse! And abide the end!'

'Have they no refuge or resource?' cried Scrooge.

'Are there no prisons?' said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. 'Are there no workhouses?'

The bell struck twelve.

Scrooge looked about him for the Ghost, and saw it not. As the last stroke ceased to vibrate, he remembered the prediction of old Jacob Marley, and lifting up his eyes, beheld a solemn Phantom, draped and hooded, coming, like a mist along the ground, towards him.

[dapper]

5. I read his report! What a FRAUD!

I read his report and looked at some of the scientists that were named.

Sure, many of them do not believe CO2 is the SOLE cause of Global Warming, many of them believe there are other reasons such as Methane. I don't recall the names but 1 guy was being paid by an oil company, one was publishing books, many had nothing to do with the environment.

Just look at the way Inhofe worded it.

Does anyone know which Scientists wanted to get off his "list", I would love to find that info.

Dap

[quidam56]

6. Appalachia is turning into a toxic waste dump third world America

http://www.wisecountyissues.com

[CheCheCheCheYerBooty]

7. GW deniers

are like child molesters. They keep denying that there's anything wrong with it.

[xocet]

8. David Shuster (or his writers) know not that of which they speak...

It is quite interesting to listen to David Shuster.

Here are a few, short videos to consider:

http://peoplesarchive.com/browse/movies/1248/en/off /
http://peoplesarchive.com/browse/movies/1249/en/off /
http://peoplesarchive.com/browse/movies/1249/en/off /

There are important points made in each of these. In no specific order:

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Measurement is an important process, and it can lead to understanding when carefully done.

Modeling is not superior to measurement. Modeling's predictions should not be ignored, but there are caveats to consider - caveats that regard the quality of the input data.

Government must provide funding to scientists (like the scientist at Harvard who is doing the flux measurements with the towers), so that the balance between vegetation and the atmosphere can be better understood.

Without improved measurements, it is very difficult to get an accurate result from any climate model.

Without having a good grasp of what a problem actually is, it is difficult to formulate a good policy to attempt to rectify a problem.
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An important thing to take away from the above set of videos is that experimental science (to the extent that humans can do it) should definitely be done; to wit, a better understanding of the earth can be obtained, and it should be obtained.

Again, policy should be based on this better understanding and should not be rashly cobbled together. Yes, Sen. Inhofe is likely not knowledgeable and is likely attempting to serve particular vested interests other than those of the United States of America. Generally, Republicans seem to try to solve problems on a political basis instead of a scientific basis, and this usually results in terrible, unsustainable policies that benefit only the politicians and their benefactors. (Maybe Inhofe is greed-driven, but recognizes how others who are greedy will exploit badly thought-out policy and opposes it for that reason - he certainly does not seem to have any reasonable statements to back up his positions, though.) At any rate, policies are hard to change once they are in place.


So, what should be done?
Fund scientific research in all fields extravagantly!
Educate the public better in science and mathematics!
Appoint or elect people who have scientific backgrounds to government positions that can affect and make policy!
Address Global Climate Change, and take its possible ramifications seriously!

FINALLY:
One last note, though, regarding David Shuster: his writers apparently did not have time to properly research Freeman Dyson.

Specifically, Shuster said: "Furthermore, one of the theoretical physicists you cite, a man by the name of Freeman Dyson - he has suggested powering rocket ships by detonating nuclear bombs. So, clearly, Mr. Dyson doesn't know anything about rocket science either."

One should check out the verifiable links on the Wikipedia entry for Freeman Dyson:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_Dyson

Here is one of his books (listed in the above Wikipedia article), and it is far beyond Newtonian Mechanics:

"Advanced Quantum Mechanics, World Scientific, 2007. Dyson's 1951 Cornell lecture notes transcribed by David Derbes."
(http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Quantum-Mechanics-Freema... )

To say that Freeman Dyson does not know anything about rocket science is akin to claiming that the Pope cannot speak Latin. "Rocket science" is essentially Newtonian mechanics. The point of the nuclear bomb detonations is not to power the rocket ship, but to propel it. One should again look to the verifiable links on the Wikipedia page for Project Orion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_ (nuclear_propulsion)

(I wish the citizens of the USA were scientifically and mathematically literate! The same wish holds true for the news media!)