Cynthia McKinney interviwed on CNN about Israeli patrol boats ramming the Dignity.

[JohnyCanuck]

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Glad there are some prominent US figures not scared to stand up to Israeli goons and bullies.

[Hulk]

1. Terrible spokesperson....

Regardless of what happened, this woman definitely had her own agenda to bark. What happened? Were you warned? Little if any information was shared by Ms. McKinney.

Certainly it's worth being informed and concerned about the relationship of the US and Israel. We have stuffed them with every imaginable weapon known to man. They have nuclear weapon capabilities, and NOTHING is even said about this.

The response to rockets from Hamas has been disgustingly aggressive and unjustly leashed on the civilians of Gaza as well as the enemy they are trying to punish. But we, the USA, back them 100% with this brutality. And then we wonder why the Arab world hates US?

Get real!

[pacalo]

3. If you've ever been inside a sailboat cabin, you'd realize how terrifying

it must have been to be rammed on the side, where you were seated, by a large military boat.

I'd be barking, too. I thought she said everything that needed to be said -- & with great restraint, considering what she had been through.

[PatrynXX]

6. reporter was a better spokesperson

McKinney is part of the Green party. Not sure why CNN thought they'd get a reliable story out of her. The reporter told more about what really happened. Which is basically what she said, but she's always had an agenda. That said, this is just a PR nitemare for Israel. If they aren't careful, they'll be holding the bag when one of their bombs goes off.

[Raineyb]

11. I'm not sure why being part of the Green party should mean that anyone has less credibility

the woman was on the boat. What would a member of the Democratic party or worse a Republican (regardless of whether or not they were on said boat) be considered more credible?

And so what if she has an agenda? So does anyone on the TV including the "neutral" anchor. (I think I prefer the British term of newsreader.)

Regards

[mod mom]

15. So only Democrats and Republicans are reliable spokes people?

What a ridiculous assertion. :eyes:

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. So being part of the Green party means she isn't credible?

I saw nothing wrong with McKinnney's remarks so I don't understand what you are implying.

And I have an agenda too. So do most of us who take the time to read and post on DU. :eyes:

[EFerrari]

8. Maybe, but it was largely due to her that this was covered at all. n/t

[SemperEadem]

40. agenda to bark? So, you're saying she's just a bitch

cause only dogs bark.
Is that what your'e saying? She's a bitch?

You're the one who needs to get real.

[Mithreal]

59. Terrible spokesperson?

"this woman" "bark" - a little belittling aren't ya?

It's former Congresswoman, how about that?

And "Arab world" really? It's not just the Arab world last time I checked.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. Good for her - plus she brought up the USS Liberty

If you don't know about that -> http://www.gtr5.com/

[curiousdemo]

4. WOW! I find it amazing the U.S. government

and our elected officials are sitting by and letting the Israeli government bomb away on innocent people. When Israel is in the wrong we as a people need to stand up and speak with truthfulness. I have back Israel when terrorist target innocent people, but when Israel in the wrong, we need to speak up and not be afraid. I'm sorry, but our foreign policy are so unbalance when it come to Israel.

[bdamomma]

9. our government is way unbalanced.

remember we the US supplies the Israelis weapons to bomb other countries to hell. sickening, when can we look at both sides the Israelis and Palestinians equally with conditions. violence begets violence.

[curiousdemo]

34. You are so correct.....

What we have learned over the last eight years is that bombing only kill innocent people. I so dam sick and tired of bombing..bombing..bombing..I believe Israel got their cue from Bush.

[DutchLiberal]

88. Never knew about that. But why did Israel attack their strongest ally?

[Iwillnevergiveup]

5. Cynthia was allowed to talk

but the segment was still too short to get the whole story.

[Bushknew]

7. Kucinich & McKinney are the only two people worth beans until

someone with actual power can stop these massacre's.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4741477&mesg_id=4741477

[bdamomma]

10. and both Dennis and Cynthia will push for it too.

[ShortnFiery]

64. Sadly, it seems when someone of high potential finally gains power, they have compromised their ...

principles to such an extent that, they've convinced themselves "Israel has a right to protect itself." Like the moral of the story for Animal Farm: Some animals are more equal than others. So far the following proportion: 1 Israeli life to 400 Palestinian lives is A OK with our illustrious leaders that all the blame for the MURDERS can continued to be leveled at ONLY Hamas. :crazy: :(

[april]

12. Good for her / and not the sugar coated version !

[valerief]

13. kick

:kick:

[swwallace81]

14. Cynthia's nuts!!

My proudest day as a voter here in Georgia was the day that Bob Barr and Cynthia Mckinney were ousted from office. Not much good has come out of this state (except I-75) before of since. Never, ever, ever, give her the microphone!

[pjt7]

16. You may not agree with the way she delivered that message

& I know a few hard-core Republicans that call her crazy & then blast her w/ the N-word...

But the lady address a lot of issues that nobody wants to talk about & I give her credit for going there & trying to do something.

[pjt7]

17. BTW.. If the black community rallied

around her, like they do Obama... A lot of cockroaches could be stomped on when the light of day was shined.

[JeanGrey]

18. I must admit I laughed out loud when I found out she was on

this boat. Thanks, Israel.

[soulcore]

19. What a small person you must be. n/t

[JeanGrey]

33. No. Mckinney is a nut and a racist. Sorry.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

35. What's with the Cynthia McKinney hate?

Why is she a racist??

[LWolf]

47. Because

she's not a Democrat any more.

Bigotry is allowed on DU, when it's partisan bigotry.

[Ken Burch]

54. The reason she's not a Democrat now is that the party hacks ganged up on her

And put a meaningless, silent, nobody in in her place. No one even knows the guy's there and all he does is follow the leaders blindly.

[LWolf]

56. That's true.

That whole episode reflects very poorly on the Democratic Party.

Which is why it triggers such venom on DU. :(

[Ken Burch]

55. She's not a racist, NOR an antisemite. And that's been proven over and over again.

It's not racist or antisemitic to criticize the Israeli government. If it were, a lot of ISRAELIS could be considered racists and antisemites.

The Israeli government never had to lay siege to Gaza. The rockets would've stopped if only Gaza had been left alone. The siege is about preventing the establishment of a Palestinian state, because the IDF thinks Israel has to be at permanent war in order to survive.

[roody]

86. Got any facts?

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. What a sad comment

She chose to go into a very dangerous area to deliver humanitarian aid and you thank Israel for ramming her boat.

WOW. Hope you're proud of your words.

[Raineyb]

25. How many stories do you have to climb before you can climb out from under a rock?

Revolting

[Bushknew]

27. Yeah, she's such a joke. What a waste of time, trying to help thoses people.

Thanks Israel for thwarting their humanitarian efforts.

[JeanGrey]

31. Cynthia McKinney is a joke! And I will not apologize for

feeling that way.

[wundermaus]

37. No need to apologize for calling McKinney a joke and a racist...

considering the source, it would only seem reasonable that your projections and ad hominem attacks are the soup de jour. Consider yourself ignored.

[JeanGrey]

74. Oh boy! I'll lose sleep over that one.

[Leftest]

45. Pssst, here's a hint for you.

Whenever the (corporate) so called MSM portrays someone the way they do people like Cynthia McKinney. THAT is someone most likely and truly representing working class folks and liberal ideas. Corporate America won't let someone like that become popular or else they can become a wrench in the corporate/political machine.

[mirrera]

52. Ding ding ding! You got that right...

[ShortnFiery]

67. Bingo!

As my favorite progressive talk show host, Stephanie Miller would quip, "you are the smartest boy in the class today." :thumbsup: :hi:

[JeanGrey]

75. Here's one for you: Get a clue.

[DutchLiberal]

89. Are you always this proud for making a fool out of yourself?

[Ken Burch]

58. Jean, you do realize that the Dignity was in international waters

And that, thus, the Israeli Navy had no right to engage it militarily, don't you?

All they had to do was ask permission to board and then check the stuff to make sure it wasn't ordinance.

And reallt, the presence of a CNN correspondent and a former member of the U.S. Congress should've been proof enough that the Dignity's intentions were innocent.

[Raineyb]

79. Apparently, hating Cynthia McKinney is more important n/t

Regards

[ShortnFiery]

65. Wow! That conveys a chilling notion of what you may consider "justice."

:thumbsdown:

[lumpy]

66. What a filthy thing to say. There were other people on that boat

as well as McKinney and there were medical supplies to be delivered to people who are suffering in Gaza. That sort of statement is typical of the Ugly American; as long as it is not you who is in peril or suffering from war you simply don't give a damn. Thanks Israel? for spreading mayhem? Disgusting!

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. Yes most right wingers can't stand her

but she does have supporters here. I think she is awesome and would trade her for my own blue dog Dem representative anytime.

[kenichol]

41. I love Cynthia

After I watched "American Blackout" and saw her asking questions I wanted asked, I grew to admire and respect her. Then I watched the media crucify her when she had an encounter with the cops. Strong women will continue to be attacked until we truly have equality. Not in my lifetime.

[roody]

85. She sounded right-on to me.

[Belial]

20. You have got to be kidding..

This was a staged event from the moment she decided to go... if they REALLY wanted to help. Why not load up their stuff on the 150 some odd trucks that were allowed through taking aid in the last couple of days??? This woman is a racist in her own right and I detest racism in any shape or form. The interview with her Dad last night was interesting to see. He doesnt like Jews and has NO problem saying it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. In case you don't realize, she and her dad are 2 different people

And while you sat at home playing keyboard commando, McKinney risked her life to help people in a war zone. But be sure and keep on calling her a racist. That really helps the people in Gaza. :eyes:

[Raineyb]

26. My guess is he's not interested in helping the people of Gaza

:shrug:

Just a guess.

Regards

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. I don't understand why that is relevant

I also don't judge people because their parents are nuts.

[Raineyb]

42. Perhaps some of her more pointed questions put his personal issues in a bad light

:shrug:

It wouldn't be the first time that the messenger was attacked instead of thinking about what was being said.

Cynthia McKinney asked questions that others were too cowardly to ask. She's gold in my book.

Regards

[Belial]

30. Keyboard commando.. I like that..

Actually she didn't decry her fathers statements.. and her political contributions after that got to be very interesting.. but thats beside the point.. If she REALLY wanted to help.. why not send everything over with the rest of the relief items? If you cannot answer.. don't.. maybe this was just a political stunt on her part for self serving reasons?

[fascisthunter]

43. You Think This was a Stunt??????? Seriously????

are you that whacked out or just brainwashed into hating her so much you need to make shit up just to slam her?

[JeanGrey]

76. Please, stop it.. Just stop. You are wasting your time and

breath. Please put me on ignore. Cynthia McKinney is a racist and a bigot and she is totally nuts.

[proud2BlibKansan]

53. Sigh

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_/ai_18856983

[martymar64]

60. Sure she staged this, got the israelis to ram the boat before she ever left the US

:eyes:

[JeanGrey]

32. Oh my don your flame suit! There are so many deluded

people where this crazy woman is concerned.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

36. Please back up your outlandish assertions with real information, facts, ect, 'kay? n/t

[JeanGrey]

72. Oh please spare me.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

80. Holy crap. Give me information or stop being a tool. n/t

[martymar64]

61. Keep your ad homimems to yourself

Your racism is so transparent.

[JeanGrey]

73. Ah yes it didn't take long. If you don't like Cynthia you're just

a racist. Maybe I'm a JOO too?

[roody]

87. My dad is a racist, so I guess I better give up right now.

[DutchLiberal]

90. I've always found it disgusting to judge people by the actions of their parents.

:puke:

[cooolandrew]

29. I like Barack and supported him he had the numbers but president McKinney would of rocked !

[pjt7]

38. The lady bring up big crimes that have gone unpunished

& never discussed out in the open 9.11, USS.Liberty etc.

The sheep don't want to hear about those things.

Of course you are going to have people attack her for that.

[Danger Mouse]

39. Heh...frankly, I don't trust her.

[fascisthunter]

44. Man Do People Here Despise Those who actually Speak Truth to Power

some will even suggest she is doing this as a "stunt". What is this, right wing underground?????

What's even more telling is the fact that this isn't about McKinney...

[lostnotforgotten]

46. Yes - DU Speaks With Forked Tongue When It Suits The Occasion

eom

[LWolf]

48. You noticed. nt

[Hell Hath No Fury]

49. The DU of old viewed her as a hero.

We saw that she had the courage to speak out on subjects no one wanted to touch, like who was really behind 9/11 and who benefited from it. She was one of the only Demcorats to speak at anti-war rallies before the invasion.

How DU has changed...

[madrchsod]

57. beating up on someone who actually spoke out when all were silent

she maybe a bit eccentric but so what.....yes... long ago we did champion those who spoke out.

[ShortnFiery]

68. IMO DU has not changed overall, it's just that the corporate lovin' voices here are far more shrill

and, at times, overpowering.

Many of us know "the usual suspects" so to speak and choose not to engage them. The content is often dripping with vindictiveness and disinformation, their posts seemingly negate themselves to anyone who keeps up with the facts underlying current events.

The old time LIBERALS of DU are alive here but we also must choose our battles. :-) :hi:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

81. Ah, the "usual suspects"...

Yup, I noticed them over on the other thread. :hi: I don't like letting disinformation like that stand -- we used to smack that shit down fast, not so much anymore. It just seems like there are so many more battles these days... :(

:hi:

[DutchLiberal]

91. Obviously, they want to distract people from the Israeli attack by attacking McKinney...

[proud progressive]

50. not a fan of mckinney the pol, but i am a fan of mckinney the humanitarian

re. israel - only when and if the day arrives that we, the creator and supporter of israel, have the backbone to stand against their warmongers and support their moderates, will they EVER listen to anyone in the world.

[daveskilt]

70. exactly. Mckinney was a crap pol but is doing decent work now

As my rep once upon a time I couldn't stand her and her routinely inane, uninformed, cringe inducing, embarrassing, and sometimes downright stupid statements. BUT lets give her the benefit of the doubt here that this was not self serving attention whoring but a genuine attempt to do something good.

[vinylsolution]

51. Gotta love McKinney....

.... for going where spineless corporate Democrats fear to tread.

You keep on hammerin', girl!

[psychmommy]

62. do your thing cynthia.

is it a violation to ram their boat in international waters? thanks for helping the innocent victims-women and children.

[BlueMTexpat]

63. Count me with proudprogressive and

vinylsolution ... Cynthia does speak for the dispossessed and those who think of her as a *terrible spokesperson* have their own agendas as far as she is concerned, IMO.

Or perhaps they simply aren't *dispossessed* enough.

[Poll_Blind]

69. There's a whole lot more dispossession headed their way in 2009.

PB

[LatteLibertine]

71. Some seem to miss

It is not being reported that the Hamas attacks may have been motivated by the 300+ Palestinians that have died of starvation. They have died thanks to the Israeli food and water blockades.

I don't think either side is right in this and 363 deaths plus 1400+ injured seems a bit extreme.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

82. I was waiting for some context of what was happening...

by the media, and have found (surprise!) very little. Israel was getting hit with missles, end of story. I am a big fan of context and the "whys" of a situation - they are the only things that will help a person come to a real and deep understanding of that situation and the possible solutions. Sadly, the current US media is pretty much all one sided. :(

[Jefferson23]

77. I was shocked that the Dignity had any MSM reporter on it, and I bet the

Israeli government was surprised they did too. You can remove McKinney from the equation here and it will not change the facts that were reported by the gentleman from CNN one bit. The Israeli government responded like thugs once again.

[arikara]

78. Too late to R

but a big K for Cynthia.

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[LeftishBrit]

84. Are you serious, or is this a parody of the hate-sites?

If the former, then you're not needed on a liberal site, and might find David Duke's site more suitable.

If the latter, it might help to include the :sarcasm: icon.