TYT: Virginity Pledges And Purity Balls (New Research & Some Creepy Footage)

[ihavenobias]

Run time: 05:01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScA8JO-_Odg   Posted on YouTube: December 30, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: December 31, 2008 By DU Member: ihavenobias Views on DU: 4203

 
After you watch the TYT clip where they discuss the , watch this disturbing video I found (turn up your volume) with some .

Also, check these out:











PS---Be sure to watch and the video where

Finally, keep in mind that you can always catch The Young Turks weekday mornings on XM 167 and 24 hours a day with (free) streaming video at www.theyoungturks.com

[CherylK]

1. I had already seen the Turks video but not the purity ball one you added!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgA6KFKDBQw

:puke: :wow:

[AtheistCrusader]

5. Oh isn't that cute.

They kept cranking out kids until they had a boy.

This is horribly creepy from one end to the other.

[mckara]

2. I Got Your Purity Balls, Right Here!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[volstork]

3. "Abstinence ClearingHouse"?!

You've got to be fucking kidding me! (no pun intended)

[TheEuclideanOne]

28. I was thinking the same thing

I always feel that I need to take a shower after watching videos of really religious people. Just like the co-host mentioned in Turks video, the people who have to announce things are the ones most likely to not do them. Otherwise, there would really be no need to be so public about it. There were so many aspects of this video that were just downright creepy.... from the father taking his daughter out on dates..... to the mother swearing that she is not jealous about it.... to the girl talking about how Jesus feels about her sex life. I am happy that the research study was completed because you just know that this will not work....now you have numbers to support it. One thought that I have is that if you make a public announcement about abstinence, it makes it even more difficult at that age to buy condoms or even bring up the topic. Maybe that is part of the reason that there is such a higher percentage of unprotected sex.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. I've heard the data about the so-called virginity pledges...

How stupid can people get?

I could not watch any more than a few minutes of the Purity Ball fiasco...

How much do you love Daddy? Making the kids compete! Sounds like King Lear to me...:puke:

[ihavenobias]

6. Make sure you check out the bonus non-TYT video which shows footage from an actual Purity Ball

It's pretty amazing in a disturbing sort of way.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

7. I tried,honest!

I couldn't do it...

It looks disturbed, for sure!

[ihavenobias]

8. How far did you get into it? 30 seconds?

;)

[CaliforniaPeggy]

9. Oh, I think it was a little farther than THAT!

I got up to the place where the dad was showing off the chart where the kids marked how much they love Daddy!:puke:

[ihavenobias]

10. Good, so I'm not the only one who thought that was strange in and of itself.

I also resent how they keep using the word "pure" in the context that they're using it. At any rate, you missed some interesting sexism in the second half of the video but I guess you can use your imagination.

[AtheistCrusader]

20. This video is missing three things.

Lens Flare, Rainbows, and Velociraptors.

Edit: Also, thanks, I blame this thread for all the Valtrex banner ads I am now being subjected to.

[ihavenobias]

39. You shure you wanna blame that on this thread?

;)

[fortyfeetunder]

22. Here is where I got lost on this purity ball thing

The father of 6 children, 5 of them girls -- he emphasizes the daughters establishing a purity pledge but no mention of the son having to be up to that standard. He certainly should clarify the son is being held to the same standard, eh?

[pokercat999]

25. Actually his wife mentioned that she would hold her

son to the same standard. I would love to have her hooked up to a lie detector and ask if she was a virgin when she was married.

[ihavenobias]

47. True, but do you trust her?

And I completely agree about the lie detector!

:)

[valerief]

11. Is a purity ball something the girl puts up inside her or the boy puts on himself?

I'm so baaaaaad.
:spank:

[Believing Is Art]

16. No no no

Those are purity beads. They are marketed by the fundies to homosexual men to help resist their urges until they are fully reformed.

I'm going straight to hell.

[valerief]

40. What do the fundie fathers buy to resist their daughters? (I'm right behind you in Hell.) nt

[OhioChick]

12. K&R

:kick:

[Seldona]

13. Crap in, crap out.

I mean the one guy takes his daughters on DATES? And no one had called Social Services? In all the purity ball/Jesus Camp type bullshit I've seen that creeped me out the most.

As a father of two girls, I pledge to make sure they have the information to make safe and informed choices, THEN LET THEM THE FUCK ALONE!

[pokercat999]

26. Glen Beck the republican radio show host has talked about

taking his daughters on "dates".........sick bastard, that one. Hearing him talk about it really creeped me out, much more than just listening to his regular hate radio show.

[Seldona]

27. Glenn Beck is involved in this? No surprise I suppose.

If they think some sort of pledge to daddy will make a difference, great. But getting your daughters all dressed up and taking them on dates goes so far beyond that it should be a crime.

[awoke_in_2003]

38. How many of these men,

I wonder, are doing this as an ego thing- so they can be seen out on the town with a younger woman? Sick.

[Seldona]

44. Even if everything they say is 100% true, it is still creepy.

Of course it isn't anywhere near that. The latest studies seem to show that by age 21 there is little difference in the amount of sexual activity between the secular and abstinence based sex education.

Further the abstinence educated students were more likely to engage in riskier, and unprotected, sex than their more secular peers were!

It is just one giant fail. Billions in taxpayer dollars going into one massive waste of time with the result of increased risk for the children they so dearly love to hide behind.

Humans are going to have sex? Who would have thought?

[FiveGoodMen]

46. "Humans are going to have sex? Who would have thought?"

Certainly not the God who supposedly invented it!

He was totally shocked and inexpressibly angry when he found out.

[Seldona]

48. I never did get that part.

A design flaw in god's work? They sure have an interesting theory.

[pokercat999]

41. Yes, the same with children's "beauty pagents".....nt

[Seldona]

45. Have to agree with you there.

It's a free country I guess, but I see that as the sexualization of children.

[awoke_in_2003]

37. It is definitely essential...

that girls know how to protect themselves, because boys aren't always prepared. My wife handled that, mainly because it would be more comfortable coming from her mother than her stepfather. She was on the pill, but condoms were also stressed as backup and disease protection. When you have a boy, you worry about one dick. When you have a girl, you worry about ALL of them :)

[Brucie Kibbutz]

14. Here is what you get with abstinence only sex education:

Chicago (March 11, 2008) – A CDC study released today estimates that one in four (26 percent) young women between the ages of 14 and 19 in the United States – or 3.2 million teenage girls – is infected with at least one of the most common sexually transmitted diseases (human papillomavirus (HPV), chlamydia, herpes simplex virus, and trichomoniasis).

http://www.cdc.gov/STDConference/2008/media/release-11march2008.htm

[psychmommy]

15. that was creepy.

the girls dresses i thought were provocative and inappropriate. there is nothing wrong with daddy/ daughter banquets or events to nurture that relationship but the whole psuedo marriage and dating crap is revolting.

[20score]

17. Off to the greatest.

[cboy4]

18. Eww

:puke:

[yurbud]

19. you can only have purity balls if you snip them off.

[jeff30997]

21. They really like the 50's

Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb, Mister Sandman,bring me

a dream....:evilgrin:

[MrsBrady]

23. so who will be boys be having sex with

if they are not part of this "purity" crap...

each other?
Let 'em think about that one.

that purity ball video really creeped me out -- ick

[Two Sheds]

29. Yes. Yes they will.

One of the logical end results of this extreme sexism is homosexual activity between boys. Think about it. You exalt men as leaders and warriors; you relegate women to the status of prize and broodmare. Eventually, it will occur to the boys that men are more interesting, more powerful, more worthy of esteem. It doesn't have anything to do with not holding them to a standard of purity that no one, especially not the girls, measures up to.

[pipi_k]

30. The family's dinner

Watch out for pies with holes in the crust and meat with lots of wrinkles or fingernail marks.

[lonestarnot]

24. Ackety. I can't watch that.

[ihavenobias]

56. Imagine living it. n/t

[ExPatLeftist]

31. WTF - There's a prom for child molesters? Truly creepy shit :O n/t

[HughBeaumont]

32. Fundamentalpatients: It's all fun and games until someone loses a hymen.

Stupid. These guys are nothing but Dominionist pedo-bears who want nothing more than to reverse time when the "FEE-MAIL knew her place, and that would be to serve the MAN!"

A comment that struck as true on the YouTube vid was that it's scary how giant these fundamentalpatient families are. Talk about skewing the meaning . . . most Christians are merely harmless people who just want to go to church and feel at one with their spirituality. These people use it as a platform to control and then rule; all with the white man at the helm, of course. With their ever-increasing quantities, it's just more danger for the "Army of God" to become an eventuality.

[happygoluckytoyou]

33. oh GOD! o-God! o-god o-god ogod ogod ogod.... let's name him after Grandma Sarah Palin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svHGhLnGA1E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0_v1-3eQqM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci1ILC4mtCI&feature=related WHITE HOUSE HERE WE COME ! ! !

[pleah]

34. The reason the pledges don't work,

imo, is that kids will tell their parents anything to keep them off their backs.

They will do what they want most of the time. At least that was the way it was when I was a teenager.

[happygoluckytoyou]

35. HOW MANY REPUBLICANS DOES IT TAKE TO SCREW IN A LIGHTBULB ? --> --> --> --> ==> ==> ==>

republicans don't screw in lightbulbs-------

THEY SCREW IN HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY RINK LOCKER ROOMS BECAUSE THEIR MOM DIDN'T PUT ANY MONEY INTO PUBLIC SCHOOL SEX EDUCATION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOYTfGAUsyk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krJ-OyX6FhY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJtvQFkvfV8&NR=1

[happygoluckytoyou]

36. at least sarah and john won Virgin-ya yabetchya

[Azlady]

42. I think 20/20 had a special on this.... I can't say anything nice... n/t

[windoe]

43. These promises cannot be understood by such young girls.

What if they don't marry until their 30's, or not at all? They'll not have sex???? Riiiiiiight!

Also to insinuate that anyone having sex before marriage is 'impure', is both insulting and cruel.

I respect a father that is reaching out to his daughter and opening up healthy dialogue, but to ask a daughter to 'belong' to him before she 'belongs' to her husband is not treating her as a sentient being. These daughters are agreeing to be 'owned', and the old labels of 'good woman' and the 'other kind of woman' is brought into the present day, but with new names. This practice is very destructive, to insinuate that by seeking pleasure they will be impure, tainted and worthless....while the men can go out and do as they wish and still maintain 'pure' status!! Bring back the Dark Ages!!

A nice exercise in futility, and a just another way to feel 'superior' to the vast hoards of heathen running about, IMHO.

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[LeftishBrit]

51. Admit it.

You're not a Democrat are you? Or any sort of progressive? You're some sort of troll who is trying to make the left look bad. It would go with your other (antisemitic) posts that I've seen here.

[ihavenobias]

53. David Vitter, Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, Far Too Many Priests and the list goes on and on and on.

Your Republicans/Conservatives display the worst and most damaging hypocrisy when it comes to issues of sexuality.

They get elected on and or preach about family values, how gays destroy marriage and bash premarital sex, that is until they get caught with their pants down.

[fasttense]

50. The prepubescent girls knew what words to say but didn't seem all that enthusiastic about it.

They look kind of weirded out. Mumbling about God and being made fun of. Pointing out the overly adult dresses they were going to wear on a night out with Daddy. All so very creepy.

Now when these girls eventually have sex, they get all the added guilt of letting down Daddy after he took them on all those dates.

[skygazer]

52. That's just creepy as hell

And they keep talking about "deepening the relationship with their father" in the same breath as talking about going out on dates and giving young girls rings and talking about their sexuality. Ick!

[RetiredTrotskyite]

54. Yeeccccccch!

These people make me want to take a long hot bath after watching this. I was thinking how perverted all this really is. A father giving his daughter a ring like that is inappropriate as hell and so is the "dating" concept. This whole thing rates about a thousand on the "squick-o-meter". I predict that you will see an increase in father-daughter incest with this crap.

Check out the another video there about the girl giving daddy back her "purity ring" at the altar, i.e., when she goes from being Daddy's property to being Hubby's.

There's so much more I could say about this, but going to take a nice long hot shower with anti-bacterial soap and a large dose of anti-nausea medication.

[DutchLiberal]

55. It's child abuse. Psychological, life-destroying child abuse.

Nothing less.