New Evidence Mormons Illegally Contributed to Yes on 8

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From American News Projec (http://americannewsproject.com/)

By Steven Greenstreet on Jan 14, 2009

Activists claim that money from the Mormon Church was the deciding factor in passing Proposition 8 in California - banning gay marriage. The church claims to have only spent a few thousand dollars on the campaign, but ANP has uncovered evidence that may expose a gaping hole in that claim. Also, the IRS forbids religious organizations from "substantially" lobbying for political legislation. Did the Mormon Church violate this law?

[Left Coast2020]

1. ALL CHURCHES SHOULD LOSE TAX EXEMPT STATUS--PERIOD

When they get caught with thier hand in the cookie jar, thats it. End of story. No more tax breaks.

[DUlover2909]

5. Churches are supposed to be non-profit, but they sure do seem to profit quite alot.

They seem like businesses to me. There's no limit on how much their pastor's are paid or how much of their money can be reinvested.

[Tutankhamun]

2. K&R I hope this story gets some legs.

[Career Prole]

3. K & R

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[Starry Messenger]

4. k & r.

[1776Forever]

6. This is so disgusting! How can they get away with it? They are not alone check this out!

This goes along with what Al Sharpton said yesterday in Atlanta about churches doing wrong when they use bigoted messages. Go Al! If you didn't see the post here is the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4839258&mesg_id=4839258

And

Did Rick Warren Do Enough to Stop Torture?
Tuesday December 16, 2008

http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/12/rick-wa...

One of the great unwritten stories of the Bush years is why religious leaders remained so quiet on torture. Most conservative Christian leaders were mum.

Rick Warren, a.k.a. America's Pastor, did make a statement against torture a couple of years ago but I was curious whether he did anything beyond that. Here's what he said in the new interview with Beliefnet and The Wall Street Journal:

(snip - Check out the full video on the site)

He says torture is deeply immoral and that the Bush administration did appear to torture - but declines to describe the Bush policy as a moral failing. He says he didn't mention his views on torture because (implausibly) he didn't have the opportunity. Then he said it was inappropriate for him to raise it with Bush because he only offers spiritual support.

It seems to me that Warren is still trying to figure out how and when to exert influence. He can steer entirely clear of controversial issues, playing a purely pastoral role. Or he can be a moral leader advocating for or against causes. But if he weighs in on behalf of some causes -- opposing gay marriage and abortion, for instance -- then he can't well say it would have been inappropriate to campaign harder against torture.
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People like Warren and his Church along with the Mormons and Catholic Churches speak out when they want their bigoted ideas accepted - Not when it is the right thing to do and they get tax exempt status when they do it!

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7. You got be to kidding, the Mormon Church and their leadership has been disingenuous?

Just consider me way surprised :D