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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 10:58 AM
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TYT: Cenk & Ana Break Down 'Purity Balls' (Includes Actual, Disturbing Footage)
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 10:59 AM by ihavenobias
 
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Ok, I admit I'm biased in favor of this clip since I'm the one who sent it to Cenk. :)

Also check these out these 7 clips:

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PS---Be sure to watch and the video where

Finally, keep in mind that you can always catch The Young Turks weekday mornings on XM 167 and 24 hours a day with (free) streaming video at www.theyoungturks.com

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:05 AM
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1. Very Creepy!
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:10 AM
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2. Am I the only one who thinks these dads might be perverts?
:scared:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:25 AM
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3. That's a joke, right?
;)
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:29 PM
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13. No
I watched the purity ball footage a while back, and I came away with this kind of an uncomfortable incestuous vibe- I don't think this particular guy has any hanky panky going on with his daughters (although who knows if others might) what with him and his family being so religious (and such big fans of Bush- Ugh!) But the whole thing with him giving her a ring, and taking her on dates feels kind of creepy to me- Like he's repressing some unnatural (or maybe a little TOO natural) urges toward his daughters.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:18 PM
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24. That chalkboard thing also bothers me, even though it seems innocent.
Does he need his ego massaged that badly? Maybe even very badly? Or very, very badly? Or very, very, very badly?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:46 PM
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37. Does he need SOMETHING ELSE massaged very, very, very badly?
Major, major "EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW"







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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:36 PM
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15. You THINK?
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 12:39 PM by Chulanowa
Each of 'em are looking over their own daughter's shoulder at the next girl over, and they all have that stupid fucking "nyur, I see boobies" grin on their porcine faces.

This is an excuse for religious, misogynistic fuckups to leer at 14 year-olds in low-cut filmy dresses.

Also, get a look at the mother. She looks utterly terrified... her hair is unwashed, she just oozes stress... I can't help but wonder what kind of bruises - physical or emotional - she's suffering from that creepy asshole she's married to.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:50 PM
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38. Survey says:
Hell FREAKIN' NO!!!!!!!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 02:06 PM
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53. not at all.
a neighbor invited us to a wedding, his son, a fundie's daughter. She had been puritized years earlier.
The daughters dad demanded the first dance with her, and basically felt up every body part of his daughter. In public. without remorse or embarrassment. Wifie poo smiled and looked the other way. Even the 100 or so fundies on that side of the family were offended. I mean, had there been a cop present, daddy-ums would have been arrested for sexual assault.

But man, could he pray. And boy did he tell us about purity, giving his little girl's cunt to an ok guy, although he warned him that they needed more churchification in their life.

That was one of the weirdest events I have ever attended.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:25 PM
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25. Indeed!
:puke:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:25 AM
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4. Better protect that Uterus
Because after having 14 kids from not using birth control and being totally clueless about the human reproductive system, you will be tripping over it.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:28 AM
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5. Now I'm creeped out.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:31 AM
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6. The girls will " ask forgiveness"

for going out with boys and kissing?!?

In other words, the girls should be TOTALLY
clueless about their sexuality when they get
married?

OMG, this is really over the top.

Yes, the dads here are creepy as are
everyone involved with this.

:(


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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 03:29 PM
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29. I agree, that was one of the worst parts.
Very troubling.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:47 AM
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7. Pay close attention, folks....these are the types that are reproducing like mad
while us educated types might have one kid or two.

Marching Morons, anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons

I'm just sayin'...
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:54 AM
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8. idiocracy..
watch if you haven't yet.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:58 AM
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9. Yep. That movie wasn't satire. It was very accurate prophecy.
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 11:58 AM by kestrel91316
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:36 PM
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16. i always tell people that it's one of the funniest/stupidest/scariest movies i've ever seen
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:59 AM
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10. oh yes...but idiocracy is a faint echo of this original IMO.
I recommend reading the short story by the Sci Fi master and then watching idiocracy for comparison.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 04:23 PM
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32. I've never seen it but I've heard it's good.
Guess I should rent it.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:05 PM
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11. I'm surprised you didn't post a link to the Duggar family. n/t
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TheTimmer Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:56 PM
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22. How about a linked pic?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:29 PM
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42. Oh man.
That's so harsh but it's hard not to laugh.

:)
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:09 PM
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23. kick for later. eom
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:19 PM
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12. The Lord wants me to post this.
"Purity Balls" vs 600 million years of evolution. (Teenagers are SUPPOSED to have sex, y'know)

I know who I'm putting my money on.
Let's just keep it safe and sane. (A "purity ball" is neither. "One thing we came up with is going out on dates." With your Dad??? YIKES! Notice how Mother is on the sidelines)

Remember, kissing is not right. And women NEED men or they just aren't whole! Women must be pure for their man. Men, on the other hand....go find some non-Christian and spread that seed!

Like someone on YouTube posted...Public school exposes you to REALITY, as opposed to your out of touch cult world.
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Azlady Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:48 PM
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35. Boy, you got that right! n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:29 PM
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14. K&R
Will check out later.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:43 PM
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17. STOP....just....STOP
That creeped me out bigtime.

I couldn't even watch all of it.

These guys seem to get off on holding their daughter's genitalia under glass. Just because you are not poking it doesn't mean you do not get to enjoy the power of "owning" it. At least that is the vibe I was getting.....friggin' creepy!
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:46 PM
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18. If you can't watch all of the footage be sure to skip ahead to where Cenk and Ana weigh in. n/t
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:55 PM
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19. How Nobel but
I went to catholic school at a young age. Most of my time I went to public schools. I had a district loving father. He told us not to come home pg. I had enough respect for my parents that I would never have done that. I got married when I was 29 yrs old. That is when I experienced sex with my husband. We didn't beat a dead horse it was just understood. My parents did allot of things with us growing up. On friday and saturday we got to go to the movies. He would drop us off and pick us up. We went roller skating and he would do the same thing. We were teenagers. We did things in groups. We were allowed to have parties at our house. Kids would come over and play in our yard. We had a protected child hood to some point. We went to mass on sunday. But what these so called christains are doing is not allowing their children to mingle with other children and living that sheltered life is going to hurt them in the long run. Plus sooner or later those kids are going to rebel. It is natural. If I had a 13 yr old daughter I wouldn't allow her to wear any kind of alter gown that is low cut and open back. Am old school. I wouldn't think of even wearing a sleeve shirt to church. I think when you go in gods house you should dress appropriate. No shorts either.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:26 PM
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20. I've said it before and I'll say it again
Any man who spends that much time obsessing over his daughter's virginity and/or sexuality needs to get some freakin' help ... NOW!

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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:31 PM
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34. Amen. n/t
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 01:48 PM
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21. Weird! K&R
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:31 PM
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26. Sooner or later girls who try to be pure will rebel.
I am glad I was brought up the way I was, had alot of friends, mixed well with everyone, and learned by my mistakes.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:21 PM
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36. And they'll feel very guilty and be much less likely to use protection when they do. n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:36 PM
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27. Oh well
:freak:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 12:28 PM
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48. What is that emoticon supposed to be?
I'm not up to speed on them apparently.

:)
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 02:44 PM
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28. K&R Yes, that was creepy.
And, it won't work for very long. You have to have a relationship with the opposite sex, even if it isn't sexual, to learn and grow as a person. imo
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 03:26 PM
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49. Exactly, they're being nuts about it because they're even terrified of the non-sexual part n/t
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 03:35 PM
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30. ugh- k&r- and congrats on the shoutout!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 03:35 PM
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31. Yeah then along comes some hormones and that's that
Mother Nature whips a Purity Balls' ass every time.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 04:50 PM
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33. Jerry Springer--you are needed. Please won't some talk show expose these creeps.
Come on: just one show... "I survived the Purity Ball" about fathers who used this crap to sexually abuse their daughters and keep them away from boyfriends who might expose them or help their kids escape.

ONE SHOW would shut this crap down forever. Please. Someone. Anyone.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:55 PM
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39. The mom in that family looks like she's got a big time eating disorder
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 11:59 PM by Ken Burch
Or she's popping some kind of pills just to cope with all of this.

And when she says "this is just so NATURAL for our family"...I'm sorry, but the only word that covers this is:


EWWWWWWWWWWW
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 03:11 AM
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40. Looks like a bunch of dirty old men hanging out with underage prostitutes.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:09 AM
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41. I NEED A SHOWER!!! k*r

Tell me this is a spoof. Please, just tell me that.

This is so wrong in so many ways. Dates with his daughter is a "natural thing." :crazy:
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:31 PM
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43. Strange creatures, these fundamentalists.
But, congats on the mention.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:33 PM
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44. One of my cousins did that with his daughter.
When he and I talked about it, the first thing that I noticed is that he was terrified of her growing up. He wanted to have some control over her growth and development, and we actually talked about it for awhile. I tried to explain that she's going to grow up, no matter what, and that they have already raised her right and that she'll probably be fine. He just so terrified of his little girl becoming a woman and then getting hurt, and I didn't get it. There's no way I'd be okay with STBX doing that to our daughter or going to the boy one with our son.

I will say that I have to disagree with Cenk on the marriage thing. Having gone to an evangelical Christian college and know many Christians who've made those kinds of pledges, I have to say that I know many couples who are just fine. Now, STBX and I got married right after I graduated from college and we waited, but I don't think that's why he's been cheating for the last six years. I don't think it was wrong for us to get married (I love my kids too much), and I don't think it was because of the environment that we came from that we're getting divorced now. I think it's because of his infidelity, and that's been his choice since leaving that church and becoming a liberal. So, would Cenk argue that he's a cheater because he's a liberal? I would hope not.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 04:39 AM
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45. My condolences for how things turned out with your spouse
You deserved better, and at the risk of sounding like Dear Abby, I think you'll find it.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 08:30 AM
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46. I didn't think I deserved better until just recently.
Of course, there were our marriage vows to consider, so I gave him chance after chance only to have them thrown back in my face, but he'd beaten me down emotionally pretty badly. The closer I get to freedom, the stronger and better I feel.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 08:49 AM
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47. This sounds like an abusive relationship, not just adultery(not that adultery's no big deal):
I'm glad you feel stronger and better. People like the person who you're now escaping(if I'm getting a proper understanding of the situation from your posts)specialize in breaking down the confidence and self-esteem of the person they hold power over. He probably spent a lot of time convincing you that everything bad in the relationship was YOUR fault.

Good luck on you new life, and I advise you not to leap into anything new with anyone, because you're going to need some time to heal and, in the end, there ARE worse things then spending time living alone.

Be well. Get the best lawyer you can manage as well.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 04:11 PM
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50. I've got a great lawyer, and I'm slowly getting better.
It's going to take a long time, I know. I would much rather be alone right now, to be honest. Sure, I miss cuddling and sex and just plain touching another adult, but I can live without that as long as I regain my confidence and inner strength. My kids deserve a strong mommy and no other men in their lives right now, too.

Of course everything's my fault. Everything wrong in his life is my fault, even though I'm the one who's made his life really good. He just refuses to see the reality that I've made him a good home, backed him up more times than I care to count, made him appear to be a better father than he really is, and more. Instead, I'm just a fat, lazy bitch who's been mooching off him for years. :eyes:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 06:11 PM
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51. The important thing is that you realize that everything he's said is bullshit.
Take care. There are a lot of people here at DU who you can share with. I admire your strength.

Living alone can be a good thing. If you want your kids to have some positive male role models without having a relationship, you can contact Big Brothers/Big Sisters. They made a big difference in my life when my mom was divorced.

Anyway, good luck to you in all of this. You've earned some better times.
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Mother Of Four Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 01:28 PM
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52. This purity ball thing ....

Uhm..I have two daughters of my own. 12 and 14.

They are smart, beautiful and talented (Me biased? NAHHHH)

I would never want them to do that sort of thing, what we HAVE done is make sure they are educated (Especially here, NC...not much for teens to do in the smaller towns without getting into trouble)

It's just, well, I don't know. It's a personal choice, and whether they take them to a ball or not...they won't be there when they lose their virginity. All it does is place MORE focus on it, and bring with it a sense of shame. I would never want any of my children to feel shame at being human.

On the date thing, I do have to disagree with some views on it. My dad took me out on "dates", lunches- outings etc. But it wasn't a (D)ate. It was more him saying "Ok..when the young man comes and picks you up, this is how he's supposed to act." Talking about safe driving, subjects that are best stayed away from, how to allow a guy to open a door for you, order for you if you like that sort of thing. How to order for yourself without seeming over the top if the young man is old fashioned.

He took me to very nice dressy restaurants I think three times, each time explaining what the silverware was for, napkin placing, what some of the dishes were. How to order a meal from the mid range or below out of respect, little quirks that irritate some fellas like "Oh...I'll just have a salad...really." How to talk about both you AND him, without dominating the conversation etc.

He went over dress, how to look attractive without "advertising"- and even went over some of the openings some guys use to squeak in closer than you might feel comfortable with.

I don't know if that is what this father is doing, but I'll always be grateful to mine for showing me how to react and what to expect. It took the awkwardness right out of any first dates I had.


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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:22 PM
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54. Damn, Just now thought of this. This thread should've been titled
"Cenk and Ana Bust Their 'Purity Balls'".

We've all been missing all the double entendre possibilities.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 02:30 PM
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55. Bottom line: these men have raised female children which they do not trust
this whole think reeks of not trusting their daughters. I noticed that this particular father didn't apply the same purity requirements to his male child--I know the kid is a baby, but no where did he say that he expect for his son to remain a virgin until he is married. Will he take his son to a purity ball, too? Will he buy the boy a ring to wear? Will the mother take her son to a purity ball? Exactly how does this BS work in reverse?
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