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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:53 AM
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Really? Did 61 Gitmo Prisoners “Return to Battle”? - Rachel Maddow's guest - explains the propaganda
 
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:56 AM
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1. Thanks for posting this. n/t
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:59 AM
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2. My first thought when I heard that was "How did
they know anyone returned to battle???"
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:16 AM
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3. If I were imprisoned and tortured for years I would also
return to battle. Of course if the war were over there would be no need to return to battle. During WWII we treated the German prisoners so good that they did not want to return to Germany. Perhaps we should not have tortured the Muslim prisoners. I guess that is just a foolish thought.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 01:29 PM
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11. how would you "return" to a battle you were not involved in in the first place?
if you actually were in the battle, that's the least likely prisoner that would have been let go ...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:15 PM
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13. They've tried to make innocent people sign an oath before they leave,
as sort of a last ditch effort to tar them, swearing that they will never fight with al Qaida again. Coercive filth!
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:21 AM
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4. i wonder if obama knows this?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:39 AM
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5. Kick
I've already recommended.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:41 AM
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6. amazing how much bullshit..
is put out there each and every day to manage perception. The republicans are using their favorite fear factor (a terrorist coming soon, to a neighborhood near you) to stop the closing of Gitmo, and releasing any of the tortured prisoners.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:57 AM
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8. Hey -- NYTimes has had the propaganda front and center for a day now n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:56 AM
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7. K&R
They're playing the fear card as usual. Unfortunately, it often works. The antidote is good information.

The problem is that the statement "61 returned to the battlefield" makes a good sound byte, while the explanation of the truth takes a little more time and thought.

We need some good rhetorical techniques to combat this problem.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:04 PM
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9. thank you. i had a real cases of
:wtf: are you talking about when i saw some news model spout that. i was trying to figure out how i missed the news that we had even released that many people. i knew it was bullshit, but it is always nice to have it laid out there word for word.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 03:14 PM
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12. We've been on this for months. Check out this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x263547

We've released a lot of people and it's been kept quiet becauee Bush/Cheney doesn't want anyone to be able to find them or to talk to them.
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:26 PM
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10. another good research
project would be to see how many prisoners are even sane and fit enough to be sent back into society.
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