Rachel Maddow: Bush issued 'pre-emptive immunity'. w/ Michael Isakoff

[ProfessorPlum]

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[newmac]

1. Translation: They are crooks.

Why all the flowery legal language?

[Demeter]

2. They Are Trying to Pull a Fast One--The Question Is, Will the Supremes Let them?

and if they do, then how will Bush suborn the ICC?

Playing for time, that's all. Don't let them get away with it.

[Jefferson23]

3. Bush doesn't care who laughs at him, if he can pull this off, he will

consider himself a huge success as a president. If this went before the SCOTUS, Roberts and his predictable group would most likely defer to the president as they have so many times before. Kennedy would very likely vote against them, another close decision though most likely imo. Roberts embraces the Unitary Executive theory as far back as when he was a clerk for Rehnquist.

[Piewhacket]

4. popcorn.

this won't resolve soon.
watch but keep working people.

(the directive to Rove expired when Bush left office,
one president at a time. )

Four justices Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas
must be impeached. I retain hope, but see no serious
prospect of it.

I guess the war will continue.


:popcorn:

[merh]

5. Listen folks - immunity means Rove cannot be prosecuted for

crimes he committed under the Bush administration. That does not mean he doesn't have to testify when properly subpoenaed. The "immunity" would actually free Rove to testify. He could remain silent when questioned, pleading the 5th and not be compelled to testify if he were not given the immunity (if that immunity exists).

His refusal to answer questions or appear would be a NEW CRIME, a crime under this administration. Bush cannot grant him immunity from crimes that have not occurred or that will occur under the new administration, that might occur before the new congress. If he lies or refuses to testify, if he obstructs justice, he can be charged and not a damn thing Bush could do about it.

[ananda]

6. If we are not a nation of laws..

.. then we are a nation of thugs and
criminals..

.. no matter who's in charge.

[cynthia]

7. if there is no precedent, let's make one

seems to be the bushies modus operandi

imperialists, all!

[WyoHiker]

8. I've got a note from my mother.

[ihavenobias]

9. K & R

[chill_wind]

10. Another effort to stall, keep matters tied up in new rounds of

briefs and opinion seekings, ad nauseum. Four days before he left office and not the last day- I wonder what went into his choice of timing. I'm very sure it wasn't random.

K & R.

[cynthia]

11. kick