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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:09 AM
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Bristol Palin: abstinence is not realistic
 
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:15 AM
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1. Suckin on chilli dogs outside the tastee freeze

Diane sittin on jackies lap
Hes got his hands between her knees
Jackie say, hey diane lets run off
Behind a shady tree
Dribble off those bobby brooks
Let me do what I please
And jackie say a

Chorus:
Oh yeah life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin is gone
Oh yeah life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin is gone they walk on
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:24 AM
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10. Oh, God... isn't that it?
Melloncamp made obviousw what we know. Now, Palin's "kid" figures it non other than...Gretta!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:53 AM
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26. Perfect.
Guess that was Mellencamp's life too.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:19 AM
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2. Wow, I guess Bristol is the smart on in the Palin family tree
Perhaps the rest of the republican nutjobs should listen to her and learn a bit about the realities of "Just Say No" doesn't work - hasn't worked with the drug wars nor has it worked with keeping kids from having sex.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:20 AM
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3. That's okay Bristol. Your mother, who is twice your age,
doesn't know "how to put" a lot of things either, unless she's reading prepared talking points off of the teleprompter.

With a little more practice, you'll be more articulate than mom in no time.

Ya betcha.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:11 AM
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8. This whole sad episode is just a metaphor
For


republican failure at every level!
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 03:42 PM
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47. LOL!
:rofl:
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:33 AM
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4. Abstinence is unrealistic, but safe sex is not.
People love to get their groove on, but doing it safely is easy and just as fun.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:04 AM
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7. It is more accepted now by my slutty friends
Wow, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree now does it. She is so much of a mirror image of her mom in the way she thinks, behaves and answer questions. Holy fucking shit!!! She was asked a question about contraception and answers with "I don't want to get into detail about that". I bet mom coached her on that one. Then she answers a question that was not even asked, which is about abstinence. And her answer was that having sex was much more accepted. That could mean that either she sleeps around alot and so does everybody she knows, and that justifies it in her mind. Or there is just not a whole lot to do in Alaska. In either case, just because you choose not to be abstinent doesn't mean that you have to choose not to have safe sex.

Like her mother, when asked about something, she gives a completely different answer. I am also guessing that this is a taboo topic at home too, so the only time that she has probably had to really organize her thoughts is in talking with her friends and figuring it out like teenagers do. Obviously it is working out really well for her.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:15 AM
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9. In Alaska the nights are six months long!
What would you do?
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:40 AM
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23. Try to last the night ! ! ! (if it lasts more than 4 months call a doctor)
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:15 PM
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32. If it lasted more than 4 months for me...
I'd be calling the funeral home...because I would be on my way to heaven. :rofl:
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:23 PM
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40. Chess? Video Games? Read the bible maybe?
Ah....Crystal meth!!! I think we have a winner. ding ding ding.
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sunnybrook Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:36 AM
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14. It is so easy to be perfect the way you are!
What a sexist perspective you have shared. Not a fan of Palin here, but Bristol and her "slutty friends." What century are you living in caveman?
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:20 PM
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39. Interesting comment. It doesn't make much sense, but it is interesting.
If all of your friends are sleeping around, what would you call it? Let me guess..... "accepted"? :rofl: But seriously, if my perspective is so sexist and I am a caveman, then enlighten me with your perspictive, Sunnybrook Palin. Remember, we are talking 2nd baby at age 16? Let me guess, she had sex only 2 times, right?
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sunnybrook Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 08:56 AM
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46. Ok Caveman
Of course it is not acceptable for teens to have sex before they are ready to be responsible about it. Gee, it is such a new phenomenon! My point was that the gender base to your comments, which is unfortunately so common and TOTALLY accepted at DU, to the point that it goes unnoticed, had to do with the reference to her "slutty friends." Or let me guess, you were referring to her MALE friends too right? So the teen girls are sluts, the teen boys are "successful." That is the general "accepted" value in our culture.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:36 PM
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31. By her slutty friends? This girl is in her teens, lay off a bit
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:24 PM
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41. I am not the one that needs to "lay off", apparently half the boys in her high school do.
I just crack myself up.
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Moonwalk Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:33 PM
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34. Excellent analysis, but you missed one possibility--
You said: "She was asked a question about contraception and answers with "I don't want to get into detail about that"...Then she answers a question that was not even asked, which is about abstinence. And her answer was that having sex was much more accepted. That could mean that either she sleeps around alot and so does everybody she knows, and that justifies it in her mind. Or there is just not a whole lot to do in Alaska. In either case, just because you choose not to be abstinent doesn't mean that you have to choose not to have safe sex."

This is a really excellent analysis, but actually, the point that it's "accepted" is her way of saying, "It's not my fault. Society is depraved and makes sex acceptable. If it was like in the good old days, it wouldn't be acceptable and I wouldn't'a done it." THAT is what she's saying, because that's what such people believe, and that's what certain religious and conservative groups want to hear. Society makes sex too acceptable. We've go to get back to see sex as evil and dirty and then they'll stay away from it!

Of course, seeing her talk, I think asking her why/how she ended up preggers is a ridiculous question. Pretty dim candle there. Stupidity counts as much as hormones; she sounds like the sort who would have used precautions even if they weren't allowed by her family, but the idea just never entered into her head. One of those details she didn't want to get into, I guess :eyes:

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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:20 PM
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36. Exactly my reaction...
When I saw the title of the video, I thought, "Oh, maybe Bristol isn't as stupid/unenlightened as her mom," but then, when she got to the actual line, I had the exact same immediate reaction. It's not "unrealistic" because people have natural urges and needs that few can--or really, should--contain (don't want to become a neurotic basketcase from repressing sexual urges), it's unrealistic because "it's so much more accepted nowadays."

It's still everybody else's fault.

I hate these people; I really hate these people.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:56 AM
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19. Actually it feels much better without the helmet, but it is dangerous without it.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:43 AM
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44. With lubrication it feels exactly the same as without a rubber.
Just find a good latex friendly sex-lube. With the lube I can't tell any difference.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:50 AM
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5. Love this write-up on video from Gawker...
Bristol Palin: Abstinence Is 'Not Realistic' (Despite What Mom Says)
By Ryan Tate, 11:58 PM on Mon Feb 16 2009, 6,461 views
Sarah Palin has famously opposed sex-ed programs other than "abstinence education." Funny, then, that daughter Bristol was on Fox News tonight saying abstinence is "not realistic at all."

Bristol scheduled an interview with mom's pandering BFF Greta Van Susteren of Fox News. But she didn't tell mom until 24 hours before, probably because she was planning to personally insult Jesus, and the former Republican vice presidential nominee would not like it.

After describing the difficulty of being a teen mom, Britsol told Van Susteren abstinence is the best policy, but is not realistic because it's not the 19th Century any more, not even in Alaska.

She said she didn't "want to get into detail about" other reasons abstinence is unrealistic, though we're guessing it might be because Bristol failed to control her teenaged hormones and, being without ready access to condoms, got pregnant at 17 to an ill-tempered failed hockey player who has yet to finish high school or, judging from what Bristol told Fox, secure employment of any sort, other than doing odd jobs for his father.

Still, Bristol wants all teens to try really hard not to have sex of any sort, because you'll end up like her, sitting across from Greta Van Susteren and explaining that "eventually" you'd "like to get married" to your the father of your child, to whom you are supposed to be engaged. And that you'd especially like to get married to that person if someone in your family needs to run for a federal office of some sort. (OK, she never said that last part. But it was implied.)
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:44 AM
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25. It wasn't realistic in the 19th century either
Think about when the term "shotgun wedding" came into being. People have sex. That's what they do. We hear more about unmarried people getting pregnant now because there is less of a stigma but make no mistake, it has always happened.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:52 AM
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6. finally, some intelligence from the palins - perhaps the wrong palin is seeking public office
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:39 AM
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12. She could run as Vice President to Maya Keyes!
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 08:40 AM by Ian David
Maya Keyes
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maya Jeane Marcel-Keyes, more commonly known as Maya Keyes (born May 23, 1985), is an American social and political activist and daughter of Alan Keyes, a candidate for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination. Marcel-Keyes has been involved with the anarchist and gay rights movements, despite her staunch conservative upbringing. She also identifies herself as adamantly pro-life, describing this stance as integral to her pacifist beliefs.

<snip>

Activism and beliefs

From an early age, Marcel-Keyes involved herself in her father's political work, in both pro-school choice circles and the pro-life movement. She believes in the philosophy of "peace for all who live," opposing all forms of violence -- including the death penalty, abortion, all forms of war, and the killing of animals for consumption (she is a vegan). She states she is an anarchist<2>, and reportedly believes things such as access to health care, education, housing, food and jobs should be considered human rights.

To these ends, Maya is involved with a number of activist organizations. She has volunteered with Food Not Bombs, runs as a street medic at protests and is a member of the Board of Directors for the National Youth Advocacy Coalition, which speaks on behalf of LGBT families and youth all over the country. She also spent a year in the south of India teaching English and computer skills to tribal people with a group known as ACCORD, which aims to empower tribal people of India who have historically been oppressed and/or ignored by higher castes.



More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Keyes
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:38 AM
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11. D'ja think? n/t
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namvet73 Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:59 AM
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13. ENFORCEMENT of abstinence is no more realistic than...
enforcement of tailgating.

Ignorance or non-education about sex is unrealistic.

Oh, but then education means they would have to talk about "dirty" stuff like genitals.


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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:37 AM
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15. There actually might be a brain in there, when she's away from the right-wing campaign trail
Abstinence isn't a realistic expectation. Kids are going to have sex, it is a natural fact of life. Give them the education and the means to do it safely, and life will be good.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:42 AM
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16. No doubt that Sarah is pissed off about this interview.
I'm equally sure that Sarah wasn't an abstinent teen. Few are, at least by the time they get to college. It's unrealistic for adults who, themselves, fell off the abstinence wagon, to try to insist that their adolescent children, along with the children of others, abstain.

Teaching about sexuality, including all available information on contraception and STDs, is absolutely essential.

It is interesting to look at the statistics regarding teen pregnancy in the red, bible belt, states. It's higher, not suprisingly, than in more liberal states. Who'd have imagined that withholding information on sexuality would cause such a result?
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Tyler Generation Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:43 AM
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17. What happened to the huge, beautiful, Christian wedding
We heard about during the campaign?:eyes:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:54 AM
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27. oops. Guess the Palins figured everyone was going to take one of those pills
that makes you forget things...
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:45 AM
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18. Hahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahahahah
:rofl:
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:00 AM
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20. Revealing answer!
The question was about contraception... and Bristol immediately thinks back to her abstinence-only education, commenting how it's "not realistic" to constantly promote that goal. So why think about contraception at all? :crazy:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:00 AM
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21. Glad someone said it. It's just nature people want to make out is like eating food, not >
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 10:02 AM by cooolandrew
that it's ideal Bristol is a mother at her age but yeah it's just real that folks given the chance will make out.
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newmac Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:06 AM
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22. Condoms are realistic
I don't think she can say the word if she even knows what they are.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:43 AM
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24. How many REPUBLICANS does it take to screw in a lightbulb??
The Republicans dont screw in lightbulbs.... they screw in high school locker rooms after the hockey game, because their dim-bulb of a mom would rather depend upon abstinence training than healthy sex education.

REPUBLICANS..... so little wattage.... so many lightbulb jokes
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:53 PM
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35. What's the difference between a pregnant Republican
And a light bulb?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:56 AM
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28. Intelligent Young Woman

Good to know that she has her own opinions and chooses to share them or not.

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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:28 PM
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29. you should have saw the other inverview
where Sarah Palin says she doesnt know what young mothers without familys do to support their babies... oh but its not the governments job!

classic.

gosh its so hard for a single mother out there on her own, but dont ask me for help! im not ur family!
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:29 PM
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30. Where are the baby pictures??????
Has anyone seen any baby pictures of Bristol's baby? I bet it's the spitting image of Trig. LOL! I Still beleive that Trigg is Bristol's.
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rebecca_herman Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:40 PM
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43. Pics here
There's a couple pictures here http://news.aol.com/article/bristol-palin-interview/346503
One showing his face, he's cute. but then, I think all babies are cute!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:29 PM
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33. Man she's a prize. Didn't even bother mentioning safe sex. n/t
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:57 PM
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37. Abstinence 'not realistic'? Who knew?
:wow: ( :sarcasm:)

It ain't realistic because SEX IS (or should be) FUN, a way for people to feel good with each other, connect, make each other happy, yadda yadda....
and teenagers have hormones that are DRIVING the bus for the most part.

Takes a while to learn to adjust to all these new sensations, perceptions, 'urges' and just plain weird shit your body's pulling on you.
By the time the STD-test and/or the pregnancy pee-stick comes up "positive", it's just a wee bit late to start thinking "Maybe I should learn how this wonderful, high-powered, incredibly complex machinery (i.e. 'a fully functional human body, Mk 'M' or Mk 'F') works and what it's capable of...
before I take it out on the road and see what it'll do."

:banghead:
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:16 PM
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38. They said Palin "unexpectedly" dropped in and gave an interview with Bristol
Yea. Right. It was planned all along.

Good for Bristol for at the least coming clean.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:10 PM
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42. This blows sucky bush, mccain, palin
crap outta the water.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 03:58 AM
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45. She's right that it's not realistic...
But it's clear to me that the Palin Family is straight up moronic. "Everyone should be abstinent, but it's not realistic" ????????

That is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard... it goes against nature, and science and good sense. Ugh.

Why should everyone practice Abstinence Bristol? Why? What is the freaking point of that? They make me so mad.
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