Scott Renfroe Compares Being Gay to Murder

[JackBeck]

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GLAAD Responds to Anti-Gay Remarks Made by Colorado Senator

February 24, 2009, New York, NY – The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) today urged media to turn a spotlight on anti-gay remarks made by Colorado State Senator Scott Renfroe on February 23, 2009, during a Senate debate over a bill that would allow gay and lesbian state employees to share health benefits with their partners.

According to The Denver Post, Renfroe stated that "homosexuality is seen as a violation of this natural creative order, and it is an offense to God." He continued ". . . When we create laws that go against what biblically we are supposed to stand for, I think we are allowing to go forward a sin that should not be treated by government as something that is legal. We are taking sins and making them legally OK." The full report on state Sen. Renfroe's anti-gay comments is available online at http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_11770359.

"It is unacceptable for public officials to promote this kind of intolerance and, in so doing, create a hostile climate for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people in their community," said GLAAD President Neil G. Giuliano. "GLAAD is calling on the media to hold elected officials like Sen. Renfroe accountable for using their public offices to advance this kind of hatred and exclusion. Sen. Renfroe's ugly, divisive assertions highlight the need for media to examine how the anti-gay attitudes of elected officials impact their diverse constituencies."

http://www.glaad.org/media/release_detail.php?id=5009

Looks like Sally Kern just found a new BFF.

[sakabatou]

1. Hey, Scott: You're an asshole

"homosexuality is seen as a violation of this natural creative order"

And yet we find it in nature in humans and other animals.

"...and it is an offense to God."

Renfroe, do you wear, multi-fabric clothing? Eat pork? Do you not stone disobedient kids? THAT'S an offense to God.

"When we create laws that go against what biblically we are supposed to stand for, I think we are allowing to go forward a sin that should not be treated by government as something that is legal. We are taking sins and making them legally OK."

WAAAAAH I want it to be just like the Dark AGes again! WAAAAH!

[sui generis]

2. who or where is "God"?

I'm sorry, if I need to be forced to acknowledge this Mr. (Mrs?) God's personal wishes, I'd like to know a few things first.

1. Where do they live, and why do they have legislative authority in Colorado?

2. Exactly why is it I should care about what this person thinks about my life?

3. When was the last time this Mr. God addressed the public? I think Osama gets around more, and he's dead.

Just wondering. I thought this was a democracy, but this Mr. God fellow sounds like a petty dictator.

[Taverner]

3. He looks like Todd Palin

[SteelPenguin]

4. Can I use my religious beliefs too?

I'm a Unitarian Universalist and we believe that Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, and Transexuals all deserve the same rights as everyone else. Just because your religion sees something as wrong, it doesn't make it wrong sir. My religion accepts people for who they are, and loves and respects everyone, and stands up for their rights both spiritual, and political.

Why does his religious beliefs trump mine, or someone elses? Grr.

[pasto76]

5. Another shining example of why Church and State should remain seperate.

what an asshole.

[madamesilverspurs]

6. Renfroe is a horror.

He was elected, in large part, because of rather large infusions of campaign cash from the land of the Dobsonites in the southern part of the state. The same "donor pool" has influenced other elections, and some of their tactics have been sufficiently shady to come under court scrutiny.

We're just down the road from where Matt Shepherd was murdered. Renfroe isn't at all concerned that his remarks could energize the kind of treacherous thinking that's just waiting for an excuse to act. But he should be concerned that we were able to take on Musgrave, she of the notorious "defense of marriage" inanity, and remove her from office. He has now guaranteed that his tenure will be similarly curtailed. And when that happens he will, of course, see himself as a victim of evil liberals, martyred in the cause of righteousness. In my circle of friends there are a great many truly righteous people of faith, and they are genuinely horrified by Renfroe. Sadly for all of us, Renfroe (and those like him) don't know the difference between righteousness and pompous posturing.

I have already written to him, pointing out that the same book of the Bible on which he bases his hate also requires that children who sass their parents be stoned to death; I asked him if we could expect equal scriptural thoroughness in the way he runs his family. Not that I expect a response, his attention has never been directed to to any but the rabid right among his constituents.

By the way, Renfroe also asserts (based on the Bible, of course) that women are only here to help men.

[ladywnch]

7. so what do we think to over/under is for him being found with a gay lover

or cavorting diapers with prostitutes?

[polmaven]

8. As a person with a strong Christian faith,

all I can say to this is ...well...WOW! What a moran!!1!!1

Absolute CRAP is what he is spouting.

And, at the risk of sounding like ....oh....what's her name...The (R) who called Obama un-American.....I can't remember...but, any way, at the risk of sounding like her, this fool sounds pretty un-American to me.

We have a little thing called the Constitution in this county, Mr. Renfroe. I know it's a pesky little document, and the Bill of Rights is even peskier, but the very first one of those is called "The First Amendment" Maybe you have heard of it.

Get off your high horse and live the life of Faith you pretend to proclaim, sir.

OK - Rant over - Sorry.

And, I am sorry to my GLBT brothers and sisters that you are treated this way by bigots like this!

[damntexdem]

9. But, but, I though God was supposed to have given us free will.

So where do Xians get off trying to outlaw it?

[Best_man23]

10. Donkeys can talk, people can fly

and a man named Jesus lives up in the sky.

I shut this off after about 3 minutes, around the time he started quoting.

Why do people vote for these brain stems?

[Politicalboi]

11. This shit has to stop

It should be part of their oath to Protect everyone under the Constitution. Spewing hate like this should cost him or anyone else their seat. It's not a matter of free speech when you hold office and spew hate. This more than anything else should be a good reason to separate church and state and if you can't then stay out of office. We are suppose to be governed by law not the fucking bible. The bible and god should have NOTHING to do with how we run our government.

[Deep13]

12. He's forcing his religious standards onto other people.

Like many people, he equates good with godly or holy and evil with sin. In his case and in the case of many conservative "thinkers," this means assuming that the directives in the Bible are necessarily virtuous while anything that goes against it is sinful and bad. And he assumes these are objective realities that apply to everyone like gravity does. There is no suggestion that he and the other Fundy nutcases should refrain from gay actions while leaving alone those outside of his religion. If I do not believe in a vengeful god (or in my case any god) then I should not be subjected to that god's rules. This is the mentality of the ancients where offending god will rain his wrath on everyone. The fact that wrath does not seem to care who it hurts has apparently not occurred to him.

A standard of virtue based on aleviating suffering and promoting happiness completely undermines his argument. First, holiness is no longer the standard of what is right and wrong. Even if we know for a fact that "God hates fags" it does not mean that acting on such hatered is remotely ethical. Simply put, one can be holy AND morally wrong. Secondly, by using a practical definition of morality and virtue, it really can apply to everyone.

Obviously, any practical morality must immediately see that the suffering caused by employment, marriage and other discrimination against gay people is a moral outrage and the only virtuous thing to do is to remove those restrictions.

[vanbean]

13. Women are men's helpers? Great. I need some help.