WOW! Ed On Single-Payer

[kpete]

Run time: 09:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbu7mgnpEO8   Posted on YouTube: May 07, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: May 08, 2009 By DU Member: kpete Views on DU: 3001

 

[slipslidingaway]

1. knr nt

[empire we are]

2. Ed was right on this but

dissing the hard working, dedicated people of Code Pink was wrong.

[Eric J in MN]

3. Tell Congress to pass HR 676, Medicare for All.

'SUMMARY AS OF:
1/26/2009--Introduced.

United States National Health Care Act or the Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act - Establishes the United States National Health Care (USNHC) Program to provide all individuals residing in the United States and U.S. territories with free health care that includes all medically necessary care, such as primary care and prevention, prescription drugs, emergency care, long-term care, mental health services, dental services, and vision care.

Prohibits an institution from participating unless it is a public or nonprofit institution. Allows nonprofit health maintenance organizations (HMOs) that deliver care in their own facilities to participate.

Gives patients the freedom to choose from participating physicians and institutions.'

[MessiahRp]

4. Stabenow's argument is total FAIL

"People like their current healthcare"... is she joking? Also Single-Payer would eliminate the cost of healthcare to employers completely which would allow them to spend more on hiring and other benefits (retirement). Single Payer is a boon to every other industry other than the Health Insurance industry. Hopefully that boon will create more hiring to the displaced HMO workers can find new jobs but honestly, there is no logical argument that can be made to prove that Single Payer is not the very best option out there.

Rp

[Eric J in MN]

5. Members of Congress like their current healthcare.

Not ordinary Americans.

[thunder rising]

9. I loved the statistic "a lot of people" ... weak assumptions supported by weak statistics

[bertman]

11. I don't understand what the problem is with allowing individuals, or even companies,

to purchase health insurance from insurance companies AS AN OPTION WITH A SINGLE-PAYER SYSTEM.

Why does everyone have to be on a government-mandated program when many people are in fact happy with the plans they have now?

Obviously you are not happy with yours or you know someone who is not happy with theirs, but WTF, if someone has a plan they LOVE why not let them stay on it? After all, the goal is for everyone to have access to health care, isn't it?

Maybe the folks who want to buy their own think they're getting a Mercedes and are willing to pay for it, while the rest of us get our Chevys and Fords.

[MessiahRp]

14. I don't think you're getting this right...

With Single Payer, everything would be covered. This is what your plan is and more. There is no private insurance option that matches Single Payer in any way, shape or form.

[bertman]

20. I'm getting it just fine, thank you. Even nations with single payer still have private

physicians who cater to the medical needs of those who want their services enough to pay for them.

Anybody who WANTS to take advantage of single payer should be free to do so. Anyone who wants to hire a private physician should be free to do so. Or to buy insurance that allows them to do so.

[bobbolink]

35. ONLY For the "extras".

Once again... if you truly want lower prices, you have a LARGER POOL.

[mmonk]

36. It wouldn't take long for people to become wise to the healthcare

insurance protection racket and choose single payer. That means a lot of our prostitutes in Washington would lose campaign funds. Therefore, we won't have that choice in the "land of the free".

[bobbolink]

34. Here's WHY..... A larger pool makes for much better prices--on everything.

Simple math.

[DaLittle Kitty]

33. Comments from John Russell Single Payer Advocate On Ed Schultz YouTube Video!

Comments from Single Payer Advocate John Russell On Ed Schultz YouTube Video on SinglePayer!


John Russell, 2006-2008 PDA Nationally Endorsed Florida Congressional District 5 Nominee commenting on the absolute nonsense :puke: expressed by Senator Stabenow regarding their treatment of Single Payer representation at this Senate Finance Committee Meeting!

Here is Russell addressing Teabaggers April 15th and selling them on Single Payer Health Care! Russell has got the problem completely figured out. He understands the solution and that is to completely reform our election system and get the stinking CORPORATE $$$$MONEY$$$ OUT OF IT! www.johnrussellforcongress.com Click on Count Your Vote Yes We Can!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
John Russell on Stabenow: :nuke:

Debbie Stabenow IS FOS! Visit john russell for congress usual punctuation mark followed by the usual C the O and then the M and click on health care. The "HOW" has been described here for the past 3-4 years now.

Stabenow calls the Finance Comm hearing "unfortunate." There was NUTHING "unfortunate" about it! The powers that be understand that if they blatantly EXCLUDE then the protesters will come and this will harm credibility of SingPayerHealth Advocates. This was TOTALLY PLANNED!

THE DEMOCRATS as Stabenow presenting herself as a PRIME example of such are just as BOUGHT AND PAID FOR as the Republicans! THIS IS JUST A "LEAGUE" WITH THE DEMS VS THE REPUBS as a mere diversion from the fact that both "TEAMS" are working for the same set of BENEFACTORS!

BOTH "TEAMS" as is witnessed here are working for Corporate America. In this case the health INSURANCE Division!

Senator Stabenow: We do NOT want National Health INSURANCE... We are advocating for A National Single Payer Health Care Plan... Whereby we the citizens CHOOSE whether we want to KEEP our company health insurance coverage or opt for the National Medicare for ALL Alternative.

Where we pay a progressively priced fee based on our income with a cap on the MAX that ANYONE would pay. The poor would be subsidized and EVERY patient would be a PAYING patient!



Where I work, case managers tell me that the numbers of "self pay" patients are increasing dramatically, threatening hospital/health care provider financial viability.

What IS a "self payer?" A patient without health insurance, without any means to pay their bills.

Company provided health insurance that Senator Stabenow is so "concerned" about harming is quickly becoming an anachronism!


Senator Stabenow... Protector of Insurance Companies and HMO's! :puke:

John Russell, MS/ARNP,MBA/HCSM

[kpominville]

6. I HATE My Current Health Insurance

Any American who actually likes what they have are simply ignorant of the alternatives.

[bertman]

12. So because you HATE your current health insurance, ANY American who likes theirs

is IGNORANT of the alternatives.

Not hardly. There are plenty of Americans who have really good policies that they or their employer pay dearly for. Unfortunately, they are in the minority or 60% of us wouldn't want single payer. But you're trying to equate your experience with everyone else's. I'd say that's a big leap.

[localroger]

13. Unless you are a congressman or VIP

...if you like your current coverage, you are a complete fool. The best coverage available to ordinary folks in the US completely sucks compared to the default state coverage in European countries. And if you're a writer or otherwise self-employed, if you are older than 40 or have any health problems at all you pretty much can't get health insurance at all in the US for any price -- not any affordable price, mind you, any price AT ALL. So one day you go to the doctor for a regular checkup and dayum, you got the diabeetus. Then your insurance provider drops you and you can't get another. If we allow these jackals to stay in business at all that has to be illegal, and that's not a problem at all for the residents of those socialist utopias that don't let businesses doom people at random like that.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

19. I LOVE my coverage now. When I'm 55? .. 60? ... probably not so much.

The only problem is that's when I will need it the most.

Does ANYONE have lifetime coverage anymore like my father did?

[bertman]

21. They sure as hell don't in that medical utopia known as England. There they prioritize

care based on age.

Single payer will be a huge step forward for our nation, but it's going to come with its own set of problems just like any other government program.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

22. Really?

I would love to see a link for that. Seriously.

Is that what the rethugs call "rationing"? My parents both got great coverage when their insurance converted to medicare for the primary. They had several doctor's offices fighting over their cash-cow chronic illnesses. Prior to that, they were both covered by American Airlines - but those 35plus year jobs are a thing of the past.

I know several people, my partner's parents included, that have had to go without between 55 and 65 because the premiums were too high. I think my partner's parents were at 1500/mo apiece when they finally had to roll the dice. They are both really close to 65 so "knock on wood".

I think a lot of people with "portable" jobs, no defined benefits and 401ks are in for a rude awakening when they hit that close to 60 number. Not everyone can be a member of congress or government employee.

[imdjh]

23. I've had the best, and I would still trade it for single payer

Why? Because I don't have it anymore. You see, it was conditional on my continued employment with a company that shipped my job to India. Now I have an HMO for which I pay dearly and which doesn't give me the same coverage or choices as United did. It will do, and I could live with a medicare version of what I have now.

I feel confident in saying that you do not have a plan equal to the United group plan if you are self employed. If you are not self employed, then you are at RISK of losing your job and/or benefits. That's why your lot is in with ours. Risk.

[Stevepol]

7. Ed was on fire. Great show!

[kimhinter]

8. Pass Medicare Bill

It should be passed!

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[aquamarina]

10. Bottom line on this is

if single payer is offered, I guarantee you, employers will eliminate their employee insurance plans faster than you can say "single payer."

[mmonk]

37. And then benefits can no longer be used as a reason to ship our jobs

to other countries.

[kaygore]

15. Why didn't Ed bring up the $$$$ that Baucus & most of the rest

of the Senate Finance Committee have taken from the insurance & drug companies and that Baucus is #1 whore among Democrats in this area!!!???

As for Stabenow, the auto industry might still be solvent if we had national health care. She better be careful.

Finally, as the economy weakens and collapses, how many businesses will follow so many others and demand that employees pay more and more of their health insurance costs?????

Finally, I don't want another debacle like the prescription drug plan where we simply transfer our tax dollars to the drug comapies for over priced and often dangerous drugs.

[Mnpaul]

16. Ed did do that on radio show today

He was on a tear. He spent most of the show ranting against Baucus and his crap.

[kaygore]

18. He did--I saw David Swanson's clip and Baucus ends with that--

calling Baucus out for the money he had been given by the "health" industry.

[slipslidingaway]

30. He does at the end of this clip...

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/42409

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5614769&mesg_id=5614769

[DearAbby]

17. This people wanna keep their current health care bullshit

the only thing that would change would be who gets the bill...does it go directly to the government or do you send the cut to the HMO middleman, then to those who provide health care? I donno, I think what is easiest and least expensive would be the plan to go...I can see how the giant HMOs would be whimpering and lobbying the Congress....

How long will we take the crumbs of the Corporations in regards to our government? I for one, am sick and tired of the gawdamn crumbs.

[Hulk]

24. We've got a LOT of people, thanks to the propaganda network and the right wing nut cakes on radio,..

that are deathly afraid that changing the health care system is going to mean they can no longer see their regular doctors, and their private insurance coverage will be scrapped. They'll be standing in long lines to get a band aid with the illegal immigrants and street people.

God, we are a nation of morons!! I remember some very nice ladies from TX (repukes, I'm pretty certain) who were scared to death that Hillary was going to get in the White House and they would lose their health insurance.

These pigs on the right wing talk shows are shoveling all the fear they can muster. "we have the best health care in the world, and this will threaten that"...BS. People will die in waiting rooms because they won't get the emergency help they need. People will wait months if not years for simple procedures and be forced to have doctors they don't want nor even know. ALL BULL SHIT!! All scare crap to keep the system from ever changing. Lies and bull shit, but they keep pumping it out there to the brain dead and the masses who are led to believe it's all true.

Sad that we live in such an ignorant nation...and one that is PROUD to be ignorant.

[Stevepol]

28. Turn it back on them: WE HAVE THAT NOW!

"People will die in waiting rooms because they won't get the emergency help they need. People will wait months if not years for simple procedures and be forced to have doctors they don't want nor even know."

People are already dying because they can't get the care they need, most of them in secret because they don't have any health insurance. People are already waiting for months and years, AND LIFETIMES, to get simple procedures and forced to see no doctors at all, rather than any doctor, whether they know the doctors or not.

What we have now is the nightmare scenario that the RW is screaming will happen with single-payer.

[avaistheone1]

25. Ed is on fire! Go Ed!

Keep the heat on. Let roll!!!!!!!!!!!!

:kick:

[Mithreal]

26. Kick this thing, Rec'd. nt

[quidam56]

27. We need a cure for health care in America

In East Tennessee and southwest Virginia Profit Care comes ahead of Patient Care ! http://www.wisecountyissues.com We must reform health care.

[Canuckistanian]

29. Good segment

Ed was very forceful, very focused. He was on his radio show yesterday too.

One good thing about Ed - if he picks an issue, he's on it like a dog on a bone.

Good work!

[Earth Bound Misfit]

31. Kick...too late to rec n/t

[gtar100]

32. The people at that meeting were there to protect their market, not find solutions to health care

Insurance industry, pharmaceutical industry, anyone who makes a profit (*huge* profit) was at that meeting. How can a whole room full of people spend so much time with such pretense is beyond me. The last thing they care about is health care. It's business market protection through government regulation. So remind me again the definition of fascism? And what were those three words again that started our Constitution?