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Let me post what I am sure is a slightly different view on the ticking time bomb scenario and torture. The ticking time bomb in fact was the attacks on 9/11. It turns out these attacks could have been prevented using torture, the torture had to be applied on the right people. But the FBI had the names of the right people to torture, they did not know it.
On November 2000 FBI Agent Ali Soufan made an official request to FBI director Louis Freeh to ask he would ask the CIA and Director Tenet for any information on any al Qaeda meeting in Kuala Lumpur in January 2000, or on Walid bin Attash, known to be the mastermind of the Cole bombing. Soufan was told that the CIA had none of the information.
But according to page 181 of the 9/11 Commission report and page 238-239 of the DOJ IG report, Freeh had been given all of this information in December 1999 by the NSA and again in January 2000 by the CIA and this information appeared in his daily briefing papers on January 4, 2000 with the full name Khalid al-Mihdhar, who was known to be traveling to an important al Qaeda meeting in Kuala Lumpur in January 2000. If Soufan had tortured FBI Director Freeh he would have had all of the information he needed to prevent the attacks on 9/11. But this might possibly have had a deleterious effect on Soufan’s next job performance review.
According to the DOJ IG report FBI IOS HQ Agent Dina Corsi told FBI Agent Steve Bongardt Ali Soufan’s assistant on the Cole bombing investigation, on August 28, 2001, that he could not take part in any investigation of Khalid al-Mihdhar or Nawaf al-Hazmi, in spite of the fact they were known to be inside of the US and were thought to be preparing to take part in massive al Qaeda attack. Had Bongardt tortured FBI HQ Agent Corsi he would have found out:
That Corsi knew the CIA had been hiding from the Cole investigators the photograph of Walid Bin Attash taken at Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting that connected Attash to both Mihdhar and Hazmi and the planning of the Cole bombing at that meeting.
That Corsi had been working directly with CIA Deputy Chief of the Bin Laden unit Tom Wilshire who knew on August 22, 2001 that Mihdhar and Hazmi were inside the US in order to take part in massive al Qaeda attack that would kill thousands of Americans. See email July 23, 2001, in “Substitution for the testimony of John”, aka Tom Wilshire, at www.eventson911.com.
That when Corsi told Bongardt on August 28, 2001 his investigation of Mihdhar had to be shut down because it would require information from the NSA he was not allowed to have, she already had been given written permission by the NSA on August 27, 2001 to give this NSA information to him and his team. See NSA release of information, DE #448 at www.eventson911.com
That when Corsi told Bongardt on August 29, 2001 that the NSLU has ruled he could not be part of any investigation of Mihdhar, the DOJ IG investigators were told on November 7, 2002, by the attorney Corsi contacted that this was the opposite of the advice she had given to Corsi, and had in fact ruled the exact opposite and had rules that Bongardt could be part of any investigation of Mihdhar since the NSA information had no connection with a FISA warrant. See page 538 9/11 Commission report, footnote 81.
It is now clear that the lives of 3000 people could have been saved with a little torture of the right people. Perhaps in addition to water boarding FBI Agent Corsi, CIA officer Wilshire and FBI Director Freeh, and even CIA Director Tenet, they could have used pliers to pull out their finger nails, after all what are a few finger nails compared to the lives of 3000.
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